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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4903 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:02 am    Post subject: RusskiCanadian23 wrote: Doesn't wood stove mean smoke and ash everywhere? You should just get a gas fireplace. I have one. It's awesome. All the head, but no smoke, no smell, no ash, no mess. And no need to buy firewood either! No, no smoke at all. The building is detached from the bus, and I duct the warm air under the bus. Here's a picture of the shack, in the background. Ignore the boat. ( That's the reason I can't go to Russia this year). The shack is 6 ft X 7ft inside. enough room for a wood stove, and a day's firewood. Propane ( the LNG hasn't made it this far down my road yet) is too expensive. It's pretty cool to live where I live. I have 120 acres to myself, and thousands of acres of provincial forest attached. There is more firewood here than I could ever use.
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4903 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:06 am    Post subject: StephenB. wrote: are you married BC? Nope. Never been. To be honest, I'm not the marryin' kind. I'm a hippy- biker type, always have been, always will. Women like it for a week, maybe two, but it never lasts for real. I had two common law runs, for 14 years each, but it's bachelor time, now.
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StephenB. VIP Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 807	Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:09 am    Post subject: yorbcbud wrote: StephenB. wrote: are you married BC? Nope. Never been. To be honest, I'm not the marryin' kind. I'm a hippy- biker type, always have been, always will. Women like it for a week, maybe two, but it never lasts for real. I had two common law runs, for 14 years each, but it's bachelor time, now. So you like being single? Where do you go to meet people? Bars, vacation etc...?
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4903 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: StephenB. wrote: yorbcbud wrote: StephenB. wrote: are you married BC? Nope. Never been. To be honest, I'm not the marryin' kind. I'm a hippy- biker type, always have been, always will. Women like it for a week, maybe two, but it never lasts for real. I had two common law runs, for 14 years each, but it's bachelor time, now. So you like being single? Where do you go to meet people? Bars, vacation etc...? Go? You do know that I own a campground, right? I don't think it could get any easier to meet people. This year, I met people from as far away as Germany, Australia, Sweden. You can't imagine how much fun my life is. If I died tomorrow, I'd be smiling. Although, my biker side would creep in, and say " bury me upside down, so the world can kiss my ass goodbye"
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StephenB. VIP Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 807	Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:26 am    Post subject: yorbcbud wrote: StephenB. wrote: yorbcbud wrote: StephenB. wrote: are you married BC? Nope. Never been. To be honest, I'm not the marryin' kind. I'm a hippy- biker type, always have been, always will. Women like it for a week, maybe two, but it never lasts for real. I had two common law runs, for 14 years each, but it's bachelor time, now. So you like being single? Where do you go to meet people? Bars, vacation etc...? Go? You do know that I own a campground, right? I don't think it could get any easier to meet people. This year, I met people from as far away as Germany, Australia, Sweden. You can't imagine how much fun my life is. If I died tomorrow, I'd be smiling. Although, my biker side would creep in, and say " bury me upside down, so the world can kiss my ass goodbye" Well, as long as you are happy that's all that counts in life.
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4903 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:28 am    Post subject: StephenB. wrote: Well, as long as you are happy that's all that counts in life. Well, that, and don't go around hurting people that don't deserve to be hurt. Right?
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StephenB. VIP Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 807	Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:47 am    Post subject: yorbcbud wrote: StephenB. wrote: Well, as long as you are happy that's all that counts in life. Well, that, and don't go around hurting people that don't deserve to be hurt. Right? yes of course.
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gomer WayToRussified Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 445	Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:33 am    Post subject: In the 1970s, I knew someone who had a 4 door, 4 cylinder air cooled rear engined Renault ( don't remember the model name ). Front seats folded flat to the rear seats, for whatever reason you'd want such a flat area. I rode on a few Ladas in Moscow. Car had good low end torque for stop and go driving. All cars but one, had manual transmissions and didn't need to rev the engine high to get in the next gear. I heard from one Lada owner who had trouble finding someone who could work on her car. The Lada dealer service technician raised the hood on her car, saw it had fuel injection and threw his hands up in dismay. At least that's what she told me.
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4903 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:40 am    Post subject: Probably Renault 8, or 10.
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Ender WayToRussified Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 498 Location: Urals	Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: Lada and Renault alliance yorbcbud wrote: I am a licensed mechanic. I have personally owned a half dozen Renaults. They are not good cars. Too fragile for the North American market. I bet the trucks are better. I have heard that Ladas are bad, but I can't verify it. You can believe rumors at this time. I'm not so happy ex-owner of Lada 21093 and Lada 21102. Currently I'm waiting my Renault Logan (i know it is budget cheap car) arrive to dealer. It is fa-a-a-a-r much better than Lada. Almost everything is worse in Lada: 1. Sound isolation is not exist. Car suspension too hard and pass almost every small hit from stone or pit to hull. 2. Drive is less powerful yet it eat more or same amount of gasoline. 3. Hull is full of holes. At winter there is zillions streams of cold air. It absolutely not hold warmth especially at high speeds. 4. Parts of hull and interrior often does not fit one to other. 5. No conditioner (and powerless engine prohibit it's installation). 6. Interrior badly assembled. After few months of driving there are sounds of jar and friction between various parts of hull and interrior. 7. Safety is low. I can't remember it's EuroNCAP characteristics but I heard that only latest cars like Kalina and Priora got 3 stars. Hitting the hard obstactle on 65 kilometres per hour speed in anything older will result in death or very serious injury. 8. Usually every month something get broken. The plusses are: 1. Therea are many mechanics 2. Spare parts usually easy to find and relatively cheap
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RusskiCanadian23 Lounge Wizard Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 1104 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada/Ванкувер, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:47 am    Post subject: The problem with Russian cars is that they are sooooooooooooo outdated. Russia produces currenly cars, designed back in 1970s, 1980s. Volgas, Ladas, Moskvitchs (well, they closed this one down now, thank god). VAZ came up with some new models, like VAZ-2110, 2111, etc. Volga did some new things too. But it's too small a step. They just can't compete within the global market anymore.
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Ender WayToRussified Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 498 Location: Urals	Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:54 am    Post subject: RusskiCanadian23 wrote: The problem with Russian cars is that they are sooooooooooooo outdated. Russia produces currenly cars, designed back in 1970s, 1980s. Volgas, Ladas, Moskvitchs (well, they closed this one down now, thank god). VAZ came up with some new models, like VAZ-2110, 2111, etc. Volga did some new things too. But it's too small a step. They just can't compete within the global market anymore. I think it was because lack of concurrency. Ahh. The one more plus: 3. They cheaper relatively to foreign cars. But currently more and more people can buy credit car and they select something like Renault, Toyota, Hyunday, KIA, Ford, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Chevrolet.
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mister_wizzz VIP Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 582	Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Lada and Renault alliance Ender wrote: yorbcbud wrote: I am a licensed mechanic. I have personally owned a half dozen Renaults. They are not good cars. Too fragile for the North American market. I bet the trucks are better. I have heard that Ladas are bad, but I can't verify it. You can believe rumors at this time. I'm not so happy ex-owner of Lada 21093 and Lada 21102. Currently I'm waiting my Renault Logan (i know it is budget cheap car) arrive to dealer. It is fa-a-a-a-r much better than Lada. Almost everything is worse in Lada: 1. Sound isolation is not exist. Car suspension too hard and pass almost every small hit from stone or pit to hull. 2. Drive is less powerful yet it eat more or same amount of gasoline. 3. Hull is full of holes. At winter there is zillions streams of cold air. It absolutely not hold warmth especially at high speeds. 4. Parts of hull and interrior often does not fit one to other. 5. No conditioner (and powerless engine prohibit it's installation). 6. Interrior badly assembled. After few months of driving there are sounds of jar and friction between various parts of hull and interrior. 7. Safety is low. I can't remember it's EuroNCAP characteristics but I heard that only latest cars like Kalina and Priora got 3 stars. Hitting the hard obstactle on 65 kilometres per hour speed in anything older will result in death or very serious injury. 8. Usually every month something get broken. The plusses are: 1. Therea are many mechanics 2. Spare parts usually easy to find and relatively cheap I used to have a LADA 1200 when I was student, you know the car with the front rounded light... well I read your description and I beleived you were describing my own LADA I would add that the direction was awfully hard (no need to go to a sport club to muscle your arms when you drive a LADA) and the turning radius was very low. Well the last point may not be a problem in large russian streets but in narrow french city streets, it was a big problem About the Logan, don't worry, I have a friend of mine who bought one (he crashed several cars and for a matter of insurance he couldn't buy a more powerful one) and he is very happy with it. The quality/price ratio is very high, this car worth every Euro you will put on it.
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