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Rimski
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 Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject: America is receptive to electing its first black president! |
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The article link:
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2008/01/05/1205863-does-obamas-win-show-us-is-colorblind
Two quotes from the begining of the article:
| Quote: | | Obama's convincing win in Thursday's caucuses in Iowa — a state with just a smattering of minority voters — demonstrated the Illinois senator's support crosses racial lines and bolstered the notion that America is receptive to electing its first black president. |
| Quote: | | Yet he wonders if the rest of the nation is as willing as Iowa to embrace the idea of a black president. |
I wonder, a black elected as president of the US would be something so extraordinary? |
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mister_wizzz
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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It would be extraordinary because it would be the 1st time in US history.
By the way, Obama is not fully black, his mother is white and his father is Kenyan, added to this he is married to a white girl.
There is more white than black in Barak Obama  |
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RThomas
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| mister_wizzz wrote: | It would be extraordinary because it would be the 1st time in US history.
By the way, Obama is not fully black, his mother is white and his father is Kenyan, added to this he is married to a white girl.
There is more white than black in Barak Obama |
His wife is actually black.
Either a black or female president would be a huge advancement, considering all the previous US presidents have been white men. |
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jo jo 7
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| RThomas wrote: | | mister_wizzz wrote: | It would be extraordinary because it would be the 1st time in US history.
By the way, Obama is not fully black, his mother is white and his father is Kenyan, added to this he is married to a white girl.
There is more white than black in Barak Obama |
His wife is actually black.
Either a black or female president would be a huge advancement, considering all the previous US presidents have been white men. |
I am not much for Hillary Clinton, but I would vote for her because she has an interest in education reform...we need that here in the States. |
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Rimski
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| RThomas wrote: | | Either a black or female president would be a huge advancement, considering all the previous US presidents have been white men. |
I don't agree. There is no difference between black and white men. We all are the same human beings. If you considere a black man elected president as a huge advancement so you recognize that, in the US, black men are not equal to whites.
Electing a black man should be something absolutely normal because it's simply electing an american citizen and a human being.
If it's really an advancement, then the american people is one of the most underdevelopped people in the world. |
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RThomas
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Rimski wrote: | | RThomas wrote: | | Either a black or female president would be a huge advancement, considering all the previous US presidents have been white men. |
I don't agree. There is no difference between black and white men. We all are the same human beings. If you considere a black man elected president as a huge advancement so you recognize that, in the US, black men are not equal to whites.
Electing a black man should be something absolutely normal because it's simply electing an american citizen and a human being.
If it's really an advancement, then the american people is one of the most underdevelopped people in the world. |
Your analysis is flawed. It is an advancement because blacks were slaves in this country only 150 years ago. Blacks didn't receive full voting rights until 1965. No black has ever been president in this country. It is an advancement when considering past U.S. history.
Secondy, yes there are differences. There are differences in heritage, there are differences in experiences, there are differences in discrimination, there are differences in history. However, contrary to what you say, different doesn't mean unequal.
Now, many of these differences don't apply to Obama, which is why he has received some criticism from the african-american community.
Finally, to imply that racism is only an American problem, is wrong. Racism exists all over the world. |
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Miami
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| jo jo 7 wrote: |
I am not much for Hillary Clinton, but I would vote for her because she has an interest in education reform...we need that here in the States. |
That's a good point!  |
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mister_wizzz
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| RThomas wrote: | | mister_wizzz wrote: | It would be extraordinary because it would be the 1st time in US history.
By the way, Obama is not fully black, his mother is white and his father is Kenyan, added to this he is married to a white girl.
There is more white than black in Barak Obama |
His wife is actually black.
Either a black or female president would be a huge advancement, considering all the previous US presidents have been white men. |
My mistake !
I have seen her during a speech, she is briliant and has a lot of charisma.
Added to this, she seems to be very athletic, better not messing with her  |
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norge95
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Don't tell my Mama that I'm voting for Obama.  |
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Miami
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| norge95 wrote: | | Don't tell my Mama that I'm voting for Obama. |
Hey that rhymes! |
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Rimski
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| RThomas wrote: | | Finally, to imply that racism is only an American problem, is wrong. Racism exists all over the world. |
Yes it's true. The world is full of morons. People who think they are better then others because of the color of their skin (for example) or an other reason.
It's so pitiful. |
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MelissaCato
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I sure hope he isn't President. Doesn't matter what color, where from, how to ... he's NOT in it for America. That is evident. Neither is Billary or McCain. None have been for decades. Our Republicans arn't even Republicans .. they are demos in disquise. These bastards will do anything to deny us the US Constitution as signed by our fathers.
It's all linked back to General Smedley Butler ... Our Military knows the deal. It's the American public that is blinded by the CFR.
If you wanna see a real american ... Google Ron Paul.
He has my vote. 
Here's a linky 4 Yall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP1H2N7JkwI |
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CAjules
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I have to say that the best person out of the top three has to be Hillary, however, I don't know if each candidate's choices for international policy representative would be good with Russian representatives. I know Hillary has experience dealing with members of international governments and would most likely keep a cool head under pressure...she had at numerous times during the previous Clinton administration.
What do any of you know of potential outcomes of each candidate for Russian diplomatic relations?? I have to say that anything is better than Shrub, but which one?? |
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jo jo 7
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| CAjules wrote: | I have to say that the best person out of the top three has to be Hillary, however, I don't know if each candidate's choices for international policy representative would be good with Russian representatives. I know Hillary has experience dealing with members of international governments and would most likely keep a cool head under pressure...she had at numerous times during the previous Clinton administration.
What do any of you know of potential outcomes of each candidate for Russian diplomatic relations?? I have to say that anything is better than Shrub, but which one?? |
I find O'Bama weak. He is a meek little dog that runs with his tail between his legs... I can see all kinds of problems that may come if he is President. I think Hillary would make a good President and it is not that she is a woman, but her experience. |
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danbrew
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What experience?
Serious question. |
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