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007India · Frequent Guest Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 70

It may be a old topic but there are some interesting technical facts to share with...................

Both the Tupolev Tu-95 (Bear) and the Antonov An-22 use the contra-rotating propeller engines.

Many times I hear some western scoff at such systems, but these kinds of systems are extremely efficient (yes, I know, efficiancy is not an America virtue). And as energy becomes an issue for the US and the EU, they are now designing aircraft and have developed prototypes that use such systems. Jet engines have more marketing appeal, but contra-rotating systems have a longer rang, less maintenance, longer MTBF (mean time between failure), and far less manufacturing costs.

I'm sure as the Tu-95, Tupolev Tu-160, Tupolev Tu-22M and various refueling tankers and Sukhois (such as the Su-34) start testing EU and US radar systems and measuring response... the western "experts" will judge this like they judge "business in Russia", "peak oil", "intel on Iraqi wmd programs", the search for Bin Laden, and the state of levies in New Orleans.

The Tu-95 will be put to sleep eventually, but the US will be very antagonized as Russia forces the US to scramble fighters again and again. With each trip, Russia will test new phased array radar and other high technologies while measuring US response... for the sake of knowing your opponent's strengths and weaknesses...

And now, for a little sarcasm...

...isn't this all good for democracy? It's not war, but if America does it, AND IT DOES to this day, then it must be for peace and democracy.

I'm sure eventually Chavez will want a missile defense system in Venezuela, and maybe Nicaragua will get such a system as a Russian and Venezuelan investment, all for democracy. Seeing a squadron of Tupolev and Sukhois 90 miles off of the tip of Florida should also enhance global democracy, since the US likes them in Eastern Europe and Central Asia.

I'm sure the noble neocons at the Whitehouse believe slaughtering children in Iraq is somehow good for world peace, but I think we can all rest that the New Russia will never resort to that extreme. But all the other stuff like the Tu-95, so long as energy and economic recover continue for Russia, yup, all options are on the table.

All of this will get very entertaining as I firmly believe 2008 is the year of $100 / brl oil and the higher oil goes, the more the table turns and democracy becomes stronger in Russia and her allies. And anyway, Russia is also designing the next generation of fighters and bombers... the more bombers and fighters the more peace and democracy, right Mr. Bush? And US strategic "stealth" bombers will soon be powered by corn ethanol.

Source: http://www.russiablog.org/2007/08/bear_crossing_russia_resumes_l.php

It's a cat and mouse effort, you loiter around, then penetrate and push a little and then watch a bunch of fighters scramble... and then come back the next day or next week, adjust electronics, change the paint on the aircraft to see if it's a little more radar absorbing and so on... both sides need to burn money with this stupid game, money that can go into levies or health care.

Russia stopped in 1992... the US never stopped...
Therefore, Russia must restart and wait till oil goes to $200 / brl in 2009, at that point, America start to rethink her priorities... Russia would prefer not to do this silly thing, but 15 years of a peace offering to America is ENOUGH.

Too late... The great game is easier for Russia to win...

The logic is simple, if you want to be virtuous like America, be like America and patrol people's boarders, build missile defense, search for none existent wmd, then you are a democracy and can ignore your mortgage banking crises and energy inflation...

Since this is about energy, let's all patrol each other's airspace boarders and keep doing it until someone runs out of JUICE.

I'm very happy to see that USSR is coming back, even not too late to drive the fox and hyena's away. Lets see if vodka beats pizza.

gomer · WayToRussified Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 417

007India · Frequent Guest Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 70

gomer · WayToRussified Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 417

007India · Frequent Guest Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 70

If the US radar signal can penetrate in to Russian border then its nothing wrong radar signals from russian bomber intercept it. its the signal that crossed two borders not the aircraft.

Russians never like looking through key hole.