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Rimski
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 Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:27 am Post subject: Eastern Jokes [5] |
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Joke number 1: They are communist parties in... India.
| Quote: | | In India, communist parties in India say they are withdrawing support for the governing coalition over a controversial civilian nuclear deal with the United States. |
information link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7494795.stm
| Quote: | | Jobs in India - Included in the labor force are some 55 million children, other than those working directly for their parents. The Ministry of Labour and nongovernmental organizations estimate that there are 25 million children employed in the agricultural sector, 20 million in service jobs (hotels, shops, and as servants in homes), and 5 million in the handloom, carpet-making, gem-cutting, and match-making industries. |
information link: http://www.indianchild.com/jobs_in_india.htm
In India, communist parties accept to be part of the government while 55 million children are used as a labor force! That's what i call communism 
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Rimski
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Joke number 2: India is the world's greatest democracy!
because it's a democracy and its people is over 1 billion. ok.
but there is problem. According to the net source below: | Quote: | | A recent government report said “seventy-seven percent of Indians, about 836 million people, live on less than half a dollar a day. |
http://page11.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/india-77-people-lived-below-the-poverty-line
With some 55 millions children working and more than 800 millions living with less than a dollar a day, India is not the world's greatest democracy... India is the world greatest shantytown! The largest ghetto in the World.
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Ender
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Jokes from the East [2] |
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| Rimski wrote: | | In India, communist parties accept to be part of the government while 55 million children are used as a labor force! That's what i call communism |
I don't see anything communistic here. |
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Ender
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| Rimski wrote: | | With some 55 millions children working and more than 800 millions living with less than a dollar a day, India is not the world's greatest democracy... India is the world greatest shantytown! The world largest ghetto. |
It looks like India desperately needs true democracy, unfortunately they are not yet in the queue.
Afganistan -> Iraq -> Syria -> Iran -> India? |
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Joke number 4: Russian Investments Into American Treasury Bonds Tripled.
| Quote: | From December 2007 through December 2008, Russia more than tripled its investments in US treasury bonds, increasing it from $32.7bln to $116.6bln, according to estimates published by Russia’s Ministry of Finance and the US Federal Reserve System. Russia holds fifth position in the list of top countries holdings of US national debt. The list is headed by China ($727.4bln) with $77.2bln held by Hong Kong.
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The greatest surge of Russian purchases of US bonds came in May 2008 when the numbers grew from $65.3bln to $95.2bln. This was made possible partly because, in the first half of the year, Russia reduced investments into Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac stocks ($100bln at the beginning of fiscal year), stated Eugeny Nadorshin of “Trust.” |
source: http://www.acg.ru/english/news2.phtml?m=4602
Well, Russia investing in american treasury bonds means Russia is financing the american budget wich includes the military budget (around 500 billion dollar). So buy investing in treasury bonds, Russia contributes directly to the developping of the american military power. Great strategy. The same remark can be made about China.
Congratulations to both Russia and China for their brilliant "military strategy"  |
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jayzon
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Of all the jokes, this is the one I can not take. Rats! |
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oddspam
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: Eastern Jokes [4] |
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| Rimski wrote: | Joke number 1: They are communist parties in... India.
| Quote: | | In India, communist parties in India say they are withdrawing support for the governing coalition over a controversial civilian nuclear deal with the United States. |
information link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7494795.stm
| Quote: | | Jobs in India - Included in the labor force are some 55 million children, other than those working directly for their parents. The Ministry of Labour and nongovernmental organizations estimate that there are 25 million children employed in the agricultural sector, 20 million in service jobs (hotels, shops, and as servants in homes), and 5 million in the handloom, carpet-making, gem-cutting, and match-making industries. |
information link: http://www.indianchild.com/jobs_in_india.htm
In India, communist parties accept to be part of the government while 55 million children are used as a labor force! That's what i call communism |
Your lack of knowledge scares me..
Communism is all a question of definition. Seen from an American perspective, the Scandinavian countries are almost run by communists. The Indian communists are not very like the communist party running the Sovjet. Most important is the fact that they participate in a democratic structure.
There are no doubt India is facing problems. Before going into the problems, let's look into the opportunities. India are rich in resource. She has a very good position to join the Western markets, considering the use of English as official language and a religious foundation that not scares the West.
All countries need time to develop. 100 years ago the West wasn't much better than what India is today. Children were used as labor, women wasn't allowed to vote and the Church had a stronger position.
India's main problem is it's size. It will take time to turn such a country around. And that makes me getting closer to write something about child labor.
55 million children are currently working in India. I'm not sure if the number is correct. it wouldn't surprise me if it was higher. So what's the options? Sending them to school? Well. If you look to a western society, all children will have to go to school by law. The education is paid by the government, and the parents will most often get some support if they are (too) poor.
What's the situation in India? For most poor people it's not an option to send their children to school, as the income they are making is a question of having money for food or not. Without a place to live and food to eat, it's not easy to prioritize education.
What can be done? Obviously there are no easy answer to this question. India is a gigantic system of bureaucracy. (Well, maybe not compared to Russia after reading about the visa policies of Russia.) In the long run they should get everyone able to read and write, so that it will be possible to have a well functioning tax system, making it possible to offer services for unemployed people and pay for education, setting a minimum level of wages and do investments in infrastructure.
In the short run it's not that easy. Without the tax money, it's not possible to make it possible for everyone to get an education. Without basic education it's not possible to set neither the right tax level nor a minimum tariff. So where to begin then? If it had been possible I think building an exceptional debt never seen in the history of the world would be the best option. However, we are then talking about millions of billions of US Dollars, food import to feed hundreds of millions people for the next twenty years and a down payment during the next centuries. I don't think it will be possible to start such an operation.
Without this basic investments, it's impossible to turn the society around fast. Currently the taxes in India is kind of random, as the tax system do not work as it should. I think the first step to take will be to set a minimum tariff for all work. In the short run it will lead to a shift in the unemployment rates. On a longer run it will force companies to start thinking about doing things more efficient, not just pay a guy some US cents each day to do a job. Then the production of the country will rise, and those people still having a job will be able to send their children to school, because they are not depending on the income from child labor. In an even longer run most jobs disappearing by the minimum tariff will return. In a 30 year perspective the level of education will probably result in a better chance of having a working tax system.
As today, child labor isn't a question of what India and the Indian people want or not want. Unfortunately it's a question of life and dead for the families of 55 million children. That's not a sign of poor management from the Indian government, and it's definitely not a joke!! |
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| Pamela wrote: | well I was talking to this Indian girl once, and she was telling me about her religion and stuff, so I asked her why cows are sacred. Her answer was : "Because cows give you milk, and why would you eat something that gives you milk?"My answer in my head was "Because they give you meat, too, duh!"
So if this is true about the cow being sacred, why isn't the chicken sacred, too? Chickens give you eggs, don't they? |
Religion has always been a way of adding more value the the rules given by the society. In India milk was probably valuable back in time when the religion was shaped. Then some smart guys added it to be a law of Gods that cows were sacred. Maybe it was a period of hunger, and people tended to eat their cows. As we all know, in the long run it will be a disaster if all cows were eaten. So: let's make it a law given by God.
Look to all countries in the Middle East and India (Jews, Muslims, Hindus): Pigs are not to be eaten. Again, it's probably a historical reason. In these days of swine flu it's maybe easier to understand. I guess that in this part of the world, the pigs were bringing a lot of diseases, and to forbid eating them was a way of controlling the number of pigs.
Or look to the West. At some time of history men used to work and work and work. Without getting any rest, they were just killing them selfs. So let's keep the 7th day of the week in rest. (As for modern laws: Vacation is regulated by law!)
It's all about history! What's scary is that these rules and knowledges back thousands of years ago are still considered facts by some people. In India it's the cows. In Islam someone considering all non-muslims to be targets and in the US 50% of the population do not believe in evolution because the Bible says something else.
Scary stuff! |
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Rimski
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| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: Eastern Jokes [4] |
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Your lack of knowledge scares me..
Communism is all a question of definition. |
Thank you for teaching me what is communism.
| Quote: | India's main problem is it's size. It will take time to turn such a country around. And that makes me getting closer to write something about child labor.
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Don't waste your time defending India. To me, India is a country of economic success and social disaster. |
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oddspam
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| In your opinion, what countries are not? Switzerland and Monaco? |
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Joke number 5 : Canonization of Nicolas II
Nicolas II was killed by the bolsheviks along with his family in 1918. And He was canonized by the orthodox church. According to the orthodox church, he is a saint and his "new adress" is Paradise. Because in Christianity, both catholic popes and orthodox patriarchs can send you to Paradise before Judgment Day 
but, i am wondering... why Nicolas II was canonized?
1°/ because he was a "great democrat"?
2°/ because of the bloody sunday massacre in St Petersbour on January 22 of 1905 ?
3°/ because of millions russian deaths of WWI?
canonization of Nicolas II is not a joke. It's an orthodox joke. |
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