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bugler41 Just Starting
Joined: 08 Mar 2009 Posts: 4
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:57 am Post subject: Scary Fast Russian Women! |
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| I understand that the women of russia are hopelessly romantic however I have been corresponding with a young lady who says she is in love with me it has only been a couple of weeks! Any advice? |
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camarks Moderator
Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 333 Location: Richmond, VA USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Just don't send any money. |
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Paul-Holmes Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Scary Fast Russian Women! |
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| bugler41 wrote: | | I understand that the women of russia are hopelessly romantic however I have been corresponding with a young lady who says she is in love with me it has only been a couple of weeks! Any advice? |
Says them.
Agreed with Camarks. the list of scammers are going to get higher |
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Paul-Holmes Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Suggest send flowers to her address and ask for a photo to confirm that is the actual person and the address is legit.
Also google her name, email, and photo on the internet. |
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bugler41 Just Starting
Joined: 08 Mar 2009 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: Advice heard thanks men! |
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| Thankyou both I needed unbiased opinions to confirm my concerns and for that reason I thankyou ! TC bugler |
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gaijin Lounge Lizard
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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The idea of asking for a pic with the flowers is excellent. An address in A/YA is not a real address: it's a rented postbox, commonly used by scamers (and legitimate business for convenience).
By experience, I can tell you it is possible that a 2 week exchange of emails and phone calls has caused very strong feelings. But if you haven't talked to her on the phone, then I really doubt she's sincere. I know very well a case of a young Russian woman basically quickly falling in love with a voice (and the sense of humour and wits coming with it) weeks before loving the whole person. But if it's only emails, the more she can feel is a strong interest.
It has been said already but it cannot be repeated too many times: don't send any money. Let me rephrase:
DON'T SEND ANY MONEY.
Hope for the best but be ready for the worst.Good luck. |
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Paul-Holmes Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| gaijin wrote: | The idea of asking for a pic with the flowers is excellent. An address in A/YA is not a real address: it's a rented postbox, commonly used by scamers (and legitimate business for convenience).
By experience, I can tell you it is possible that a 2 week exchange of emails and phone calls has caused very strong feelings. But if you haven't talked to her on the phone, then I really doubt she's sincere. I know very well a case of a young Russian woman basically quickly falling in love with a voice (and the sense of humour and wits coming with it) weeks before loving the whole person. But if it's only emails, the more she can feel is a strong interest.
It has been said already but it cannot be repeated too many times: don't send any money. Let me rephrase:
DON'T SEND ANY MONEY.
Hope for the best but be ready for the worst.Good luck. |
Home phone number, not a disposable mobile phone number |
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bugler41 Just Starting
Joined: 08 Mar 2009 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: understood. |
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| Again thankyou for your suggestions and experiance! I have already ran an I.P. trace and found that she has been mailing from central moscow an d not samara where she claims and also she has conveinaintly avoided questions directed at place of employment address, Home address and of course as no home phone its a no brainer willkeep you posted learning something new everyday! R |
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Paul-Holmes Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Run Forest Run.
If you are interested in Russia/Ukraine, then learn some language and go visit. You meet some nice people and have a wonderful experience. |
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IREN Frequent Guest
Joined: 03 Mar 2009 Posts: 61 Location: Россия, Москва
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:01 am Post subject: |
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The respected bugler41
For some Russians it is business, unfortunately.
The mentality of the foreigner differs from Russian. Foreigners are sometimes too trustful.
Be cautious with such acquaintances.
As already wrote above A/YA (абонентский ящик or АЯ № ______)
It simply mail box in post office
If the woman for any reasons not speak with you by phone, quite probably, that it and not the woman, and the man.
Good luck to you.
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darthvader WayToRussified
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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It would make an entertaining TV travel documentary though: "Naive Western dude travels to Russia to meet 2 metre gorilla!"  |
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Paul-Holmes Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| IREN wrote: | The respected bugler41
For some Russians it is business, unfortunately.
The mentality of the foreigner differs from Russian. Foreigners are sometimes too trustful.
Be cautious with such acquaintances.
As already wrote above A/YA (абонентский ящик or АЯ № ______)
It simply mail box in post office
If the woman for any reasons not speak with you by phone, quite probably, that it and not the woman, and the man.
Good luck to you.
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The same values that russians use western men as bank o mat, pushes foreign men to use Russian women as prostitutes.
It is a shame that a country with quite of few intellectual ladies being pushed this way. |
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gaijin Lounge Lizard
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Hi again,
good luck on finding a nice person. It's good that you didn't fall into this scam.
But if the next person gives you her phone and address, don't be paranoid because the IP is in Moscow. I would guess that if someone writes from mail.ru or yandex.ru for example, it could be normal.
Anyway, there isn't much to follow up on this one. You can even already block her or his email address to avoid wasting time giving explanations. |
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Ender WayToRussified
Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 498 Location: Urals
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| gaijin wrote: | Hi again,
good luck on finding a nice person. It's good that you didn't fall into this scam.
But if the next person gives you her phone and address, don't be paranoid because the IP is in Moscow. I would guess that if someone writes from mail.ru or yandex.ru for example, it could be normal. |
SMTP (mail.ru or yandex.ru) usually writes a client's IP-address. This one can belong to ISP in Moscow or Samara. |
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Paul-Holmes Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| Most scammers (professional ) use a program called "The Bat" to disguise their address. |
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