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cyndy22 · Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:20 pm Post subject:

"I don't think of the average religious American wing-nut as having the good sense to stop breeding!"

What are average religious American wing-nuts? I f you are referring that some people have several children because of religious views, yet they are loving parents and provide for their family, I don't thk we should fault them.

In US many couples are post poning having childrem and most have 2 or 3.In Russia I don't know about this.

mtb · Frequent Guest Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 11 Location: UK

maybe changing the subject slightly but a very simple observation of different atitudes to children, in UK/ USA if there is a manhole cover off a drain or a broken pavement the people are horrified - fear of a child injuring themselves, then a liability claim...
In russia if there is a drain cover missing children learn not to fall down it.

On the subject of birth rate many european countries are now in dreaded fear of declining birth rates - in fact Italy (the home of the 'italian stallions!') now has the lowest birth rate in europe. This is a huge economic problem because the ageing population means there are fewer actually working and paying taxes and many more retired and claiming pensions. So now government is trying to encourage people to have children.
Similiarly I think I remember Uday was suggesting making babies was a good thing to Alice not so long ago !!! Wink

only a joke- sorry don't want to sidetrack the discussion

Dan23 · Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:20 am Post subject:

DennisF · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 8:28 pm Post subject: Right you are, Dr. Fauste

I just want to say I agree with most of Dr. Fauste's post above. An addendum on the US population statement: US citizen's of Latin American descent are now the fastest growing segment of US population, having surpassed blacks. The caucasian ethnicity is the group with the shrinking birth rate. Where I live it is necessary to speak at least some Spanish now because many here speak very little, if any, english. DennisF

Dr Fauste · Site Admin Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654

Dennis, I like to elaborate.
First, I am not talking race. Dennis you have been successful as a Doctor and have been exempolariliy part of your community. Very well educate, hard work ethic, good moral belief and etc. There are many people whether Russian or American who fit this category and will not have/adopt children. We all believe we are moral and good people here and that our values are just, then why don't we create a family and have/adopt children to instill the greatness that we learned. Instead the population growth is coming from people who are less fortunate or do not have the structure to really develop their children. So we are becomiing less developed. The people that society feel are moral and capable to have children are not.

I have compliment Dennis on couple things. First, he is adopting a child. Despite anyone objections about additional population growth, this is not adding to the population, but give a great kid a new life. It is not cheap process and can be heart wrenching.

Second, Dennis is doctor in the USA and in branch that is constantly sued by leeches known as lawyers who are gradually destroying their own country. (not all lawyers are bad, but it is shear amount of them and size of lawsuits). Still in this forum, Dennis has kept his humour and morals.

Thanks

DennisF · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:03 am Post subject: I am not disagreeing

What I meant to say and failed to communicate is that our world population is growing in a seriously skewed manner. The portion of the world population with the highest opportunity, highest achievement, highest productivity, and (dare I say it)highest intelligence is not reproducing at a sustainable rate. At the same time, the population with the highest poverty rate, the lowest productivity, and fewest opportunities is far outstripping them in birthrates.

It doesn't take much thought to see how this scenario will eventually conclude. When the best of the gene pool is diluted, eventually, the lowest common denominator rules.

In ranching, one develops a breed of animal and improves it by selectively breeding to reinforce desirable traits. The human race is on the opposite course in a downward spiral. Before anyone gets the wrong idea, I am NOT espousing ideas of breeding a super human race a la Hitler. I simply state that the laws of genetics apply equally to all species. We humans have the intelligence to find cures for some of the recessive manifestations, however, and that sets us apart genetically.

What is the answer? I don't know. I cannot change the course of society but I can influence or change one person at a time. I have two biological children who are bright and fortunate in that they will have many opportunities available to them. My goal in adopting this Russian child is to attempt to give her those same opportunities and choices. She has shared with me on the phone that she would like to become a doctor or a nurse. I am in a position to help her achieve that dream. Can you imagine what a bilingual, bicultural physician or nurse who holds dual citizenship might be able to accomplish? This is the best way I can leave something good as a legacy for the human race. My career in anesthesia is in it's latter half. I have helped by providing anesthesia over 30,000 people but now it is time to think further into the future. Wow, I've wandered here, haven't I? Sorry if I changed the subject of this thread. DennisF