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Is there an air & space museum in Moscow?
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Vic
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alanh wrote:
Yes, I do believe they still pee on the tire. Bet Alan Shepard wished he had done that before his Freedom 7 flight -- after spending 4 hours in launch holds, he had to pee in his suit.

The Cosmonautics museum is nice, albeit a bit small.


Unfortunately so. It is a really interesting topic though. It is rather unfortunate that most of the information on these interesting flights into outer space is marked "top secret" Sad Even after nearly 50 years, parts of Gagarin's flight are marked secret (there are only brief clips of his launch, for example) and all the super-interesting flights prior to Gagarin are secret aswell. Like all the animals that were sent into space to test the vehicles. I do hope that they will reveal them after 50 years. Theoretically they should have unless it still poses a security risk to the interest of the Russian Federation Laughing , which I doubt.
Vic
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Rick
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just read in the news today that the Antonov AN-225 was in Eindhoven, The Netherlands yesterday. Hired by the Dutch ministry of defence to fly earthquake relief goods to Pakistan.. It managed to take off before i noticed it in the papers Razz
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Syoma
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject: Star City Reply with quote

I can remember, that about a year ago a friend of mine organized a tour to Star City, but i'm not sure if it is possible now, because he used his private contacts and i remember, it was rather expensive. Anyway it is his e-mail, if smd is interested in, superme85@mail.ru
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danbrew
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:46 am    Post subject: Monino Reply with quote

I visted Monino back in January of 2004 just for fun (not a work trip, etc.) - it was a blast. Monino was one of the highlights of the trip. See my blog for some pics of Monino - http://www.twentyninewest.com/trips/moscow/index.htm

Am planning a trip in December to just go hangout...

Smile
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cdnexpat
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent info, Vic. I also intend to take a trip to the museum when I go to Moscow next spring.
Bob
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Vic
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdnexpat wrote:
Excellent info, Vic. I also intend to take a trip to the museum when I go to Moscow next spring.
Bob

That case - small word of advice:
Go with someone Russian (a friend) and have him buy the ticket for himself and for you. You should wait outside (so the ticket lady does not see you). Have him/her buy you a regular (Russian) ticket.
The price is not the problem - the museum is in a military town, access for foreigners to the town is limited. To get in you have to call in advance, and someone has to sign off with the FSB and take responsibility for you and so on. Nobody checks you when you get into the town and the person at the gate of the museum (most of it is outdoors but you pay indoors) will only check the tickets, not your passport. Just don't talk english when you just walk in, but the guy (or lady) is pretty old so she won't hear a thing past 5 meters Laughing
You can enter as a foreigner, but that involves alot of unnecesary precedures.
Vic
P.S. It is definately worth the visit.
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cdnexpat
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot for the info Vic, I also heard that we could take zero gravity flights for cheap, somewhere. Do you know about this?
Cheers,
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Syoma
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That case - small word of advice:
Go with someone Russian (a friend) and have him buy the ticket for himself and for you. You should wait outside (so the ticket lady does not see you). Have him/her buy you a regular (Russian) ticket.
The price is not the problem - the museum is in a military town, access for foreigners to the town is limited.

I think, u are wrong, because, when i was there about a mounth ago. The asked me beforhand about the nationality of my guests.
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danbrew
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's probably a crapshoot - my host did call ahead and register me and I was fully prepared to show my passport, etc. We walked right through the front gate and saw the sights. I did laugh about it after the fact - one can only imagine that walking into a Russian Air Force base 20 years ago would have been kind of hard...
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Kesha
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Dad & I visited Star City in April 2002 with my Russian friends.
We waited outside while Alekxander took our passports in to get our tickets. I'm not sure if the powers that be looked at them or not, but we all gained entrance (there was some discussion on whether or not we would be given permission).
I don't recall exactly how much money it cost......doesn't seem like it was too expensive (although that is a relative thing)....and we certainly spoke English the entire time we were there.
At any rate, it was a nice afternoon, and I would definitely encourage you to check it out!
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Syoma
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now, the proccess is like that: You (or your agent) have to send the fax to Star City, where all the group with their passport numbers, nationality and a place of work is mentioned. And it must be done about a week before the excursion. if everything is all right with documens, there isn't any problem with pemission. And as I heard, now it coasts about $400-$500 to get it for group of 1 to 10 persons(including english speaking guide from the staff of the Cosmonaut Training Center).
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Kesha
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syoma wrote:
Now, the proccess is like that: You (or your agent) have to send the fax to Star City, where all the group with their passport numbers, nationality and a place of work is mentioned. And it must be done about a week before the excursion. if everything is all right with documens, there isn't any problem with pemission. And as I heard, now it coasts about $400-$500 to get it for group of 1 to 10 persons(including english speaking guide from the staff of the Cosmonaut Training Center).




Things have definitely changed since 2002!
We certainly didn't pay $400 - $500 (...but then again, we didn't have a cosmonaut as a guide either).
Additionally, arrangements were not made a week in advance either, but rather upon arrival.
Perhaps my friend told the babushka we were all Russian(?)
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Syoma
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kesha wrote:
Things have definitely changed since 2002!
We certainly didn't pay $400 - $500 (...but then again, we didn't have a cosmonaut as a guide either).
Additionally, arrangements were not made a week in advance either, but rather upon arrival.
Perhaps my friend told the babushka we were all Russian(?)


No, I think You didn't understand me in proper way. He wasn't a cosmonaut, but just one the staff of the Center! (as I understood, the interpriter) Smile
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Vic
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdnexpat wrote:
Thanks a lot for the info Vic, I also heard that we could take zero gravity flights for cheap, somewhere. Do you know about this?
Cheers,


Just fly with any trainees Laughing You will end up doing zero-g approaches into the airport once the trainee realises that he is too high Wink
But really, we have an IL-76 stationed at Zhukovsky that is used for zero g flights, and there is a posibility of chartering it, but I cannot imagine that it will be cheap. Perhaps some of the smaller (skydiving) aircraft at Myachkovo (a general aviation airfrield) can be used for that.
I'll ask someone.
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Syoma
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last price of this adventure was about $15,000
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