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Vic Talk Show Host
Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 298 Location: Moscow, Russian Federation
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| alanh wrote: | Yes, I do believe they still pee on the tire. Bet Alan Shepard wished he had done that before his Freedom 7 flight -- after spending 4 hours in launch holds, he had to pee in his suit.
The Cosmonautics museum is nice, albeit a bit small. |
Unfortunately so. It is a really interesting topic though. It is rather unfortunate that most of the information on these interesting flights into outer space is marked "top secret" Even after nearly 50 years, parts of Gagarin's flight are marked secret (there are only brief clips of his launch, for example) and all the super-interesting flights prior to Gagarin are secret aswell. Like all the animals that were sent into space to test the vehicles. I do hope that they will reveal them after 50 years. Theoretically they should have unless it still poses a security risk to the interest of the Russian Federation , which I doubt.
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Rick Moderator
Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 854 Location: Касабланка
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Just read in the news today that the Antonov AN-225 was in Eindhoven, The Netherlands yesterday. Hired by the Dutch ministry of defence to fly earthquake relief goods to Pakistan.. It managed to take off before i noticed it in the papers  |
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Syoma Frequent Guest
Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 24
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:51 pm Post subject: Star City |
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| I can remember, that about a year ago a friend of mine organized a tour to Star City, but i'm not sure if it is possible now, because he used his private contacts and i remember, it was rather expensive. Anyway it is his e-mail, if smd is interested in, superme85@mail.ru |
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danbrew Just Starting
Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Posts: 9
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:46 am Post subject: Monino |
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I visted Monino back in January of 2004 just for fun (not a work trip, etc.) - it was a blast. Monino was one of the highlights of the trip. See my blog for some pics of Monino - http://www.twentyninewest.com/trips/moscow/index.htm
Am planning a trip in December to just go hangout...
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cdnexpat Lounge Lizard
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 86 Location: Afghanistan
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent info, Vic. I also intend to take a trip to the museum when I go to Moscow next spring.
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Vic Talk Show Host
Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 298 Location: Moscow, Russian Federation
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| cdnexpat wrote: | Excellent info, Vic. I also intend to take a trip to the museum when I go to Moscow next spring.
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That case - small word of advice:
Go with someone Russian (a friend) and have him buy the ticket for himself and for you. You should wait outside (so the ticket lady does not see you). Have him/her buy you a regular (Russian) ticket.
The price is not the problem - the museum is in a military town, access for foreigners to the town is limited. To get in you have to call in advance, and someone has to sign off with the FSB and take responsibility for you and so on. Nobody checks you when you get into the town and the person at the gate of the museum (most of it is outdoors but you pay indoors) will only check the tickets, not your passport. Just don't talk english when you just walk in, but the guy (or lady) is pretty old so she won't hear a thing past 5 meters
You can enter as a foreigner, but that involves alot of unnecesary precedures.
Vic
P.S. It is definately worth the visit. |
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cdnexpat Lounge Lizard
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 86 Location: Afghanistan
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Thanks a lot for the info Vic, I also heard that we could take zero gravity flights for cheap, somewhere. Do you know about this?
Cheers, |
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Syoma Frequent Guest
Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 24
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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That case - small word of advice:
Go with someone Russian (a friend) and have him buy the ticket for himself and for you. You should wait outside (so the ticket lady does not see you). Have him/her buy you a regular (Russian) ticket.
The price is not the problem - the museum is in a military town, access for foreigners to the town is limited.
I think, u are wrong, because, when i was there about a mounth ago. The asked me beforhand about the nationality of my guests. |
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danbrew Just Starting
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| It's probably a crapshoot - my host did call ahead and register me and I was fully prepared to show my passport, etc. We walked right through the front gate and saw the sights. I did laugh about it after the fact - one can only imagine that walking into a Russian Air Force base 20 years ago would have been kind of hard... |
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Kesha Talk Show Host
Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 258 Location: Terrapin Station
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:38 am Post subject: |
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My Dad & I visited Star City in April 2002 with my Russian friends.
We waited outside while Alekxander took our passports in to get our tickets. I'm not sure if the powers that be looked at them or not, but we all gained entrance (there was some discussion on whether or not we would be given permission).
I don't recall exactly how much money it cost......doesn't seem like it was too expensive (although that is a relative thing)....and we certainly spoke English the entire time we were there.
At any rate, it was a nice afternoon, and I would definitely encourage you to check it out! |
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Syoma Frequent Guest
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Now, the proccess is like that: You (or your agent) have to send the fax to Star City, where all the group with their passport numbers, nationality and a place of work is mentioned. And it must be done about a week before the excursion. if everything is all right with documens, there isn't any problem with pemission. And as I heard, now it coasts about $400-$500 to get it for group of 1 to 10 persons(including english speaking guide from the staff of the Cosmonaut Training Center). |
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Kesha Talk Show Host
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Syoma wrote: | | Now, the proccess is like that: You (or your agent) have to send the fax to Star City, where all the group with their passport numbers, nationality and a place of work is mentioned. And it must be done about a week before the excursion. if everything is all right with documens, there isn't any problem with pemission. And as I heard, now it coasts about $400-$500 to get it for group of 1 to 10 persons(including english speaking guide from the staff of the Cosmonaut Training Center). |
Things have definitely changed since 2002!
We certainly didn't pay $400 - $500 (...but then again, we didn't have a cosmonaut as a guide either).
Additionally, arrangements were not made a week in advance either, but rather upon arrival.
Perhaps my friend told the babushka we were all Russian(?) |
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Syoma Frequent Guest
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Kesha wrote: | Things have definitely changed since 2002!
We certainly didn't pay $400 - $500 (...but then again, we didn't have a cosmonaut as a guide either).
Additionally, arrangements were not made a week in advance either, but rather upon arrival.
Perhaps my friend told the babushka we were all Russian(?) |
No, I think You didn't understand me in proper way. He wasn't a cosmonaut, but just one the staff of the Center! (as I understood, the interpriter)  |
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Vic Talk Show Host
Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 298 Location: Moscow, Russian Federation
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| cdnexpat wrote: | Thanks a lot for the info Vic, I also heard that we could take zero gravity flights for cheap, somewhere. Do you know about this?
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Just fly with any trainees You will end up doing zero-g approaches into the airport once the trainee realises that he is too high
But really, we have an IL-76 stationed at Zhukovsky that is used for zero g flights, and there is a posibility of chartering it, but I cannot imagine that it will be cheap. Perhaps some of the smaller (skydiving) aircraft at Myachkovo (a general aviation airfrield) can be used for that.
I'll ask someone. |
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Syoma Frequent Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Last price of this adventure was about $15,000 |
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