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MrSpice
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vitalsigns: at least vorteks gives an international perspective and provides mildly logical arguments  |
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ram
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| MrSpice wrote: | | vitalsigns: at least vorteks gives an international perspective and provides mildly logical arguments |
"Inernational perspective"? What the hell is that? Like singing Kumbaya? Does Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe fall under that "International perspective" mentality too?
Mildly logical arguments by vorteks? Like only small part of the brain is working?
And you forgot to cite examples of my inaccuraces with arguments supported by facts. Just naked baseless accusations without any proof (sort of like "Bush lied"), while liberal bigotry and racism is for all to see recorded on video.
Like I said before, you should turn off your computer and move away from it as far as possible and stop looking more and more loony with every post. |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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 YES ITS A FACT!!!!!!!! THERE IS AN INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY!!! The United States isnt the only country on earth!!! IMAGINE THAT!!  Im sure you also believe the earth is flat! LOL  Go diddle yourself to sean hannity, ann coulter, and rush limbaugh! Dont forget to order your "blame clinton dildo", that way you always have a symbol of the object that has caused you soooo much personal stress! LOL |
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MrSpice
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ram: Are you getting goofy and defensive? Seems that way, certainly.
First of all, I don't think Bush lied and that is not very important anyway. I think smart critics of the Iraq war that are not looking to score any political points would say that the war has simply gone bad in many ways. 110 people died just in the last 2 days and it's simply a good policy to get out of there. I think Bush has low approval ratings for a reason - he is a terrible communicator, he does not remove people that screw up, his administration looks and feels corrupt - from energy policy to handing out lucrative contracts, and so on and so forth. And, as many intelligent conservatives have suggested, we should get out of Iraq for our own sake. You keep pounding on so-called liberals, Kerry and all that nonsense. First of all, painting the whole US population in black and white is simply ridiculous. There are quite a few people that don't fit these 2 categories of people. Some may agree with hard-core conservatives on, say, taxes and disagree on abortion. Or agree on marriage values and disagree on Iraq war. Some beleive school vouchers would be great and some don't. Some feel that religion should not be part of the public school experience and some don't. So your problem is that you oversimplify the choices and politics of this nation.
Is Rudy Giuliani, who introduced GW Bush at the Republican National Convention a liberal or a conservative? He is one of the main republican candidates to be become president. He is pro-choice, pro gay rights, supports meaningful gun control, does not support religion in public schools, but he is pro-business, pro-private sector and for small government. Who is he in your book?
And by the way, I think you are not very bright. You should read more... |
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vitalsigns
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Seriously, what is the international community? Or international opinion? Is it the opinion of those lazy bums in the UN? Ha! - I laugh at it!
It will be a demise of the US the moment they start listening to international community. Vorteks is not far from the kind of discussions they have in the UN's corridors. They are a bunch of blood sucking ticks on the american economy. Get them all out of the US and let them have their headquarters somewhere in Paris.
Liberal mentality also goes like this: When they feel squashed they say: " Your opinion is so dumb!"
You have all been squashed by RAM!! |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Nobody has been squashed, I belong to a political forum, and we deal with people like ram all the time! You can tell them a million times how something was done and they suddenly get silent, dissapear for awhile, then come back and ask the same empty question all over again as if you never answered it. Ive personally recieved a death threat from one person who didnt like what I had to say one day and went out of his way to try to obtain my home address, so he could "chop my head off". I am not an ultra liberal, I want whats best for america and everyone in america, but I can not sit by and let a group of uneducated red necks decide for me and everyone else, how we should live our lives. These liberals ram keeps talking about, arent even liberals to begin with, they are DEMOCRATS!!! Libertarians have their own party! Then to top it off he wants to bark about clinton, Id rather have clinton in office recieving one million blow jobs, rather then tolerate bush and his saudi ass kissing, his haliburton loving, his lack of concern for american lives, and last but not least his humiliating stupidity. Hell the guy cant even kick ass properly, what the hell is this man doing correctly???? Can anyone tell me??? WHAT HAS BUSH DONE FOR AMERICANS TO IMPROVE OUR STANDARD OF LIVING?!?!?!?!  |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| vitalsigns wrote: | Seriously, what is the international community? Or international opinion? Is it the opinion of those lazy bums in the UN? Ha! - I laugh at it!
It will be a demise of the US the moment they start listening to international community. Vorteks is not far from the kind of discussions they have in the UN's corridors. They are a bunch of blood sucking ticks on the american economy. Get them all out of the US and let them have their headquarters somewhere in Paris.
Liberal mentality also goes like this: When they feel squashed they say: " Your opinion is so dumb!"
You have all been squashed by RAM!! |
I just realised another thing, if we were supposedly squashed by ram like you claim, simply because we say his opinion is dumb, (and lord knows it is), then I guess you were squashed by vorteks, because you suggested that everyone should ignore him. |
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Lexscape
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MrSpice is is very wise in his political views. Nothing is black and white, only varying shades of gray. RAM is also correct in much he said. You guys need to calm down. Both of you are right.
VitalSigns is so on the money with the UN. Screw the UN. Screw international opinion. It's time for that tired old corrupt dinosaur of the past to be put to rest. We should cut off our financial support and boot them out the door. I don't give a flying crap what anyone thinks of us, except Britian and Canada. Their our only true allies. Everbody else just wants something.
If the UN ever takes control, the American people will revolt. Blood will flow in the streets. |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Yeah get rid of the U.N. so that nobody can keep tabs on the USA!! Thats sounds nice, in an ideal world! In reality, the USA loves to declare illegal wars, and not be stopped from doing so! We love to keep tabs on everyone else, but we want to eliminate the only organization able to keep tabs on us? The U.N. also keeps tabs on israel, as does the EU. Why are we not working on playing fair? I think we need to destroy all our nukes before attempting to stop Iran, and other nations from developing weapons. They are only developing them for their own protection against US, not cause they want to use them, but because they know that we dont mess with nations who have nukes!!! Thats funny isnt it? We talk crap on them sure, but we never cross the line! We are seen as bullies, and it doesnt have to be that way. If we want america to be great, we need to focus on not being hypocritical. How can we talk of communist and dictatorial regimes when we get most of our shit made in china and not here in the USA? I think we should reject everything communist if we are truly against communism, dont buy from china!!!! If we dont agree with someone take the money away!!! no instead we play by two sets of rules. Therefore who can respect us? We would see more cooperation coming from everyone if we simply practiced what we preached and lead by example. That would be America at its finest!! |
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Lexscape
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How can you talk to me that way? That's it! I'm breaking up with you!
How many illegal wars have we started? I can think of only one.
Why do you have so much faith in the UN? When was the last time they really helped somone, really helped them? Their always in debate over the irrelevant and incoherent. If it doesn't line their pockets, they have no interest. I feel the USA should cut ALL aid to ALL countries, close ALL bases on foreign soil, and get out of everyone's business. That way everyone will be happy! 
But in all seriousness, my bud Todd and I were talking and we solved all of the US problems. First I would appoint myself President. Todd will by the prime minister of smokage. Then I can declare myself dictator for life! But I would return powers to the governmental branches once all the problems were solved, order is restored and the crisis is over. For I love democracy... |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| Lexscape wrote: | How can you talk to me that way? That's it! I'm breaking up with you!
How many illegal wars have we started? I can think of only one.
Why do you have so much faith in the UN? When was the last time they really helped somone, really helped them? Their always in debate over the irrelevant and incoherent. If it doesn't line their pockets, they have no interest. I feel the USA should cut ALL aid to ALL countries, close ALL bases on foreign soil, and get out of everyone's business. That way everyone will be happy!
But in all seriousness, my bud Todd and I were talking and we solved all of the US problems. First I would appoint myself President. Todd will by the prime minister of smokage. Then I can declare myself dictator for life! But I would return powers to the governmental branches once all the problems were solved, order is restored and the crisis is over. For I love democracy... |
Its not that I have some special faith in the U.N. because I dont, its just that it seems odd that this administration seems hell bent on focusing on the U.N. and why? Cause the U.N. told us to not to do something? And yes illegal wars, because who else do we allow to declare wars as freely as we do? NOBODY infact we bad mouth any other nation who happens to be warring with someone else! And yes I agree we need to take our money out of alot of countries and different charitable organizations who have been around for years yet have not made any real difference. For instance the situation in africa is outragious, we are always giving money to that region, and allowing their corrupt governments to steal the money and not use it for the people in the proper way. Meaning by now africa should have learned how to self sustain, yet it is still living off of hand outs from the international community. As for you and your friend Todd, have fun! |
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vitalsigns
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Hey Firey, your scary doll went nuts!
She became liberal! |
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vitalsigns
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:07 am Post subject: |
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"Inernational perspective"? What the hell is that? Like singing Kumbaya? |
Appreciate your humor! |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| vitalsigns wrote: | Hey Firey, your scary doll went nuts!
She became liberal! |
Thats it you crossed the line!!! Meet me out in the parking lot its go time!!! |
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