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what is the average pay in Russia?

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unzippeddolphin Just Starting Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Quebec, Canada	Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:17 am    Post subject: what is the average pay in Russia? I'm located in Canada and currius on the difference in curency. How much is the average wage in Russia? How much would it be to rent a apartment or a small home in Russia in Russian Money? Here in Canada average wage is $10.00/hour $1.00 Canadian = $18.90 Russian Rouble Last edited by unzippeddolphin on Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:25 am; edited 1 time in total
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Skip Talk Show Host Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 283 Location: Planet Warez	Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:29 am    Post subject: Average wages in Russia vary from provincial areas to major cities and whilst, for example, a country midwife might earn U$D 35/65 a month her counterpart in Moscow will receive more. I believe the average per capita family income is circa U$D 2,200 annually Rents... a two room apartment in a provincial town or city, say 2,800py6 to 3,800py6... but double that for Moscows less salubrious suburbs, and raise it again very substantially for Moscow or St Petersburgs finest areas... I dunno the worth of the Can' dollar... but I think you expressed it the wrong way around against the rouble... Watch out for the other Canadians here, one or two of whom are disbarred members of the medical profession with a propensity for Jack Daniels, Jim Beam and... wait for it... snorting vodka
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Dr-Fauste Site Admin Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654	Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:48 am    Post subject: Average wages is higher than $10 bucks Quote: . In 2000, for the first time in Canadian history, the average annual earnings of Canadians aged 15 or older exceeded $30,000, to reach $31,757. Which 15.87 per hour.
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vorteks VIP Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 571 Location: European Union	Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:49 am    Post subject: You have to be cautious with such statistics, that often omit many things. For example, in France, the mean available income per household is 2000 Euros/month, 1200 Euros for a single but...the actual income is higher since the health insurance and retirement pension are already deducted from that amount. The worker only get 55% of what he costs to the firm in average, an executive can cost 6 times what he earns (progressive taxes system). People at the minium wage (1000 euros per month) get lots of freebees and grants they dont count as an income (free transportation, reductions, lowered rents...) In Russia, the statistics are based on declared income, but you all know that the unofficial market at least doubles that income, and the government doesnt have the means to control it (everything is paid by cash and the governement is poor).
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Filimon Lounge Lizard Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 97	Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:17 pm    Post subject: Russian government is poor? that's news to me. The reserve fund is swelling annually, they repay the French club early every year, the revenue from oil sales are massive... Which government are you talking about? I think the best step to try and collect more taxes and discourage cash salaries has already been made - introduction of 13% flat rate income tax.
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vorteks VIP Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 571 Location: European Union	Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Filimon wrote: Russian government is poor? that's news to me. True, everything is relative. The russian government is certainly richer than under eltsin times, but still doesn t have the means for an ambitious social and infrastructures program : retirees still don t have a decent buying power, the national road to vladisvostoc still looks like swiss cheese and children in Siberia still don t benefit from public transportation to school. Small businesses can t pay a tax to local maffias "for their protection" and pay taxes to the governement to protect them from their protectors. I wont comment about the health system... Anyways, this is another debate, the real one is that the official statistics dont reflect the real buying power of the russians.
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MrSpice Lounge Wizard Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 3431	Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:14 pm    Post subject: A better question would be: what is the average monthly salary or an educated professional in St.Petersburg and Moscow? Say, how much does a regular teacher make per month in these two main cities? How does a typical accountant make? I think we all know that the standard of living in Moscow is much higher than in the rest of Russia. And St.Petersburg is remote second in terms of income, prices and wealth. But some figures would help us understand what the standard of income is.
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vettra Lounge Lizard Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Posts: 123 Location: Cleveland	Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:28 am    Post subject: Wages are dollars per month in the Soviet Union (I call it that not CIS). I suppose the baltics it's in Euros now and I wonder if there has been a mass exodus of younger people from Latvia/Lith/Estonia seeking jobs. There is a shortage of programmers in Moscow recently and engineering wages have been spiraling upwards since 2003, while American wages have been sinking (a zero-sum game). In Moscow a top engineer can make over $2,000/mo. $1-2K/mo. is common. This gradually declines as you go out from Moscow. New grads can expect to make $600-1000/month now. Before 2003 it was different, programmers made about half these amounts. In the Ukraine, things are less there. Engineers made $150-400/month pre-2003, now everything is $600/mo.+ most anywhere. Business managers make on par with the engineering salary scale (varies with business size, etc). Secretaries, translators make about half of these amounts. In Moscow it is rare for any clerical job to be < $200. A newspaper photographer can make about $500-700/mo in Moscow. The salary increases will eventually lead to inflation. I suspect that manual and unskiled labor rates have stagnated - this will lead to hardship, a [bigger] discrepency between haves and have-nots, more vodka drinking, gnashing of teeth and beating up of foreigners.
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