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init6 WayToRussified
Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Posts: 363 Location: Москва, Россия
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:10 am Post subject: |
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This thread is also two months old. Just out of curiosity, why do you resurrect so many dead threads, Vettra?  |
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Myskin.it Just Starting
Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 4 Location: VERONA, ITALIA
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| vettra wrote: | | Camrade wrote: | So russkyi is a nationality, rossijanin is a status - just two different words. Foreigners can't understand it without studying russian because in english you have word "russian" and nothing more  |
This appears to me as yet another America-bashing and over-simplification by looking at an obscure language feature, then saying "look! therefore you people are dumb!". {the writer however uses "Foreigners" not "Americans" - how polite}. FYI, one can say things like "American citizen", "American national", "Afro-American", "Asian-American", "American-born", "expat", "immigrant American", "green card holder".... I could go on for a long time elucidating and articulating all the words and phrases that describe every shade and nuances available in Russian. |
Please dont be so negative.
Even in Italy we have only a word to translate "russian" and no more.
But all people know Russian language is not so easy like English.
"American citizen", "American national" and so on are 2 words: in this case a meaning is done from two different concepts.
In Russian language you must know the difference between "russkyi" and "rossijanin" studing the therms.
In English you can use a composed word (that is easyer to remember) |
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gonzock Lounge Lizard
Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Posts: 101
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| People that live in the Sahara desert have more than 100 words to call different kind of camels. In many other languages there´s only one, camel. This doesn´t mean that are calling you dumb and that is again American-bashing when they try to explain you that |
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MrSpice Lounge Wizard
Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 3431
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| You cannot always identify a russian easily because it's a mix of a variety ethnic group. Yet many russians are not very tolerant of other ethnic groups. |
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mister_wizzz VIP
Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 582
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| MrSpice wrote: | | You cannot always identify a russian easily because it's a mix of a variety ethnic group. Yet many russians are not very tolerant of other ethnic groups. |
BTW I know Marat Safin is Tatar, so how "Russians" would identify him ? Tatar, Russian Tatar, Russian ? |
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Camrade VIP
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 516 Location: Санкт-Петербург
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vettra Lounge Lizard
Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Posts: 123 Location: Cleveland
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| init6 wrote: | This thread is also two months old. Just out of curiosity, why do you resurrect so many dead threads, Vettra?  |
I live in a time warp |
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