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vorteks VIP Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 571 Location: European Union	Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject: What is a Russian? In this fast pace going world, borders, alliances, cultures keep on moving...This question is mainly addressed to russians. For you, what is a russian or who is russian? Is it a person speaking russian without accent? Is it a person living in Russia? Is it a person born in Russia? Is it a slav orthodox?
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Mark Frequent Guest Joined: 25 Mar 2004 Posts: 53	Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:09 pm    Post subject: I can speak for my wife,she was born and bred here in Moscow.Pure Russain cos her family tree can be traced way back.She says people like her are pure Russians.. Though now she as an English surname
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Camrade VIP Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 516 Location: Санкт-Петербург	Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:27 pm    Post subject: 2vorteks in russian language there's a big difference between words "russkyi" and "rossijanin", in english there's no difference - russian is a guy who's from Russia and no other expressions so, well, russkyi - is a person who is etnichally russian but there are some nicetyes. Some people are half russians: for example, mother is a tatar, father is russian, they can consider themselves russkyi(es) or tatars as well. But in most cases Mahmud Aganbekov for example, even if his mother is russian, even if he was born in russia, even if his parents were born in Russia will consider him as azerbaidzhanian for example because of the name and surname Rossijanin - it's same to english meaning of the word "russian". Rossijanin can be of any nationality (he can be russian) but still he has russian citizenship. Russkyi with ukrainian passport is not rossijanin. Rossijanin can speak in russian with a heavy accent as well So russkyi is a nationality, rossijanin is a status - just two different words. Foreigners can't understand it without studying russian because in english you have word "russian" and nothing more
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Camrade VIP Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 516 Location: Санкт-Петербург	Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: and not very long ago there was a general census and people were to declare their nationality... almost 50 people considered themselves as a "hobbits" so now only in Russia you can see alive hobbits - somewhere in Magadan as i remember
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Filimon Lounge Lizard Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 97	Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:05 pm    Post subject: Russkiy - ethnic origin Russian Rossiyanin - of Russian nationality/citizenship
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Camrade VIP Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 516 Location: Санкт-Петербург	Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:42 pm    Post subject: 2Filimon thanks for making a summary of my preprevious post
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Mogsfan WayToRussified Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 490	Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:49 pm    Post subject: Quote: and not very long ago there was a general census and people were to declare their nationality... almost 50 people considered themselves as a "hobbits" Smile so now only in Russia you can see alive hobbits - Frodo's cousins?!? Sorry, I couldn't resist!
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Camrade VIP Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 516 Location: Санкт-Петербург	Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:52 pm    Post subject: 2Mogsfan kind of crazy fans of sir Tolkien
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www.com Frequent Guest Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Posts: 11	Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:30 am    Post subject: napolean In answer to your question, What is a Russian: Napolian was once observing a russian soldier from the distance. the soldier had a loaf of bread, but it was frozen, and try as he might, he couldnt break it into smaller peices. eventualy, the soldier realized that he has no other choice, so he urinated on the loaf, softening it, and then went and ate the bread. Napolien saw and thats when he realized that he wont beat the russinas, and he didnt! THAT IS A RUSSIAN!!!!!
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kiwiguy_os Lounge Lizard Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 117 Location: Melbourne, Australia	Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: napolean www.com wrote: so he urinated on the loaf, softening it, and then went and ate the bread. Maybe this is why Winnie does not like Russian food
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Filimon Lounge Lizard Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 97	Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: napolean kiwiguy_os wrote: www.com wrote: so he urinated on the loaf, softening it, and then went and ate the bread. Maybe this is why Winnie does not like Russian food Cos' someone told him he should urinate in all his food and being an honest and trusting man he is, he actually did it?
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Intourist Talk Show Host Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 245 Location: Moscow	Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:23 am    Post subject: I don't think you can answer that question anymore easily than you could say what an American is.
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Mogsfan WayToRussified Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 490	Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:52 am    Post subject: Quote: Cos' someone told him he should urinate in all his food and being an honest and trusting man he is, he actually did it? No, because after he ate some bread, he learned what they did and got pissed off.
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Myskin.it Just Starting Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 4 Location: VERONA, ITALIA	Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: Camrade wrote: 2vorteks in russian language there's a big difference between words "russkyi" and "rossijanin", in english there's no difference - russian is a guy who's from Russia and no other expressions so, well, russkyi - is a person who is etnichally russian but there are some nicetyes. There are also thinking differences, or only geographical (or ethnical) distinction?
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vettra Lounge Lizard Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Posts: 123 Location: Cleveland	Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:18 am    Post subject: Camrade wrote: So russkyi is a nationality, rossijanin is a status - just two different words. Foreigners can't understand it without studying russian because in english you have word "russian" and nothing more This appears to me as yet another America-bashing and over-simplification by looking at an obscure language feature, then saying "look! therefore you people are dumb!". {the writer however uses "Foreigners" not "Americans" - how polite}. FYI, one can say things like "American citizen", "American national", "Afro-American", "Asian-American", "American-born", "expat", "immigrant American", "green card holder".... I could go on for a long time elucidating and articulating all the words and phrases that describe every shade and nuances available in Russian.
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