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jo jo 7
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| Paul Holmes wrote: | | Jo JO, not necessarily. Many of these ladies want to live life like Rock Star and that is why they do it. Many not so. Look how many go in the Porn industry or stripper industry in the USA. Look at Reno and Las Vegas, they are not captured women, but women who want to make a quick buck based on their body. It is usually latter on they regret their decision, because of the lifestyle attracts drugs like cocaine and alcohol. Drinking and smoking also. Just like a mine, eventually the resource wears out and you are left with something that no one wants or cares to to see. |
I have nothing against a Las Vegas shows, they are totally different than a strip club. Showgirls may show some boobs, but they are not strippers. Alot of those girls in those Vegas shows are paying their way in college. |
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jo jo 7
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| Paul Holmes wrote: | | 10-1 , this man is owner of the island and he is looking to advertise. |
I doubt it. More than likey he is a lonely little bald man with a teeny weeny and cannot get a nice girl to take home to mommy. Like I said those girls are probably there against their will and live in horrible conditions. Probably underground in a dark room with bowls of water on their cots... |
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Paul Holmes
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I am talking about the Chicken Ranches and the prostitution within the city. Sorry you may be offended by it, by there is many women who are willing to do things that are not right for money and it is the same with men who are willing to do very bad things for money.
I know many things how they trap these people. Just trust me on this.
You can blame who ever in Russia, but the same thing is being done in the USA. Take a girl who has some issues in her life and treat her like a rock star, feed drugs, alcohol and get her addicted to this life, then you own her. Same thing can be said about men who eliminate other people. |
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Paul Holmes
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| Jo, unfortunately you are wrong here also. People who prey are never the ones who you think. Look how many reverends and preachers were preying on young boys and male prostitutes. Many people have big closets for their secrets. Just like rich Russian men who take their girlfriends to Turkey while leaving their wives home to take care of their children. Most are handsome business men who are pigs. |
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jo jo 7
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| Paul Holmes wrote: | I am talking about the Chicken Ranches and the prostitution within the city. Sorry you may be offended by it, by there is many women who are willing to do things that are not right for money and it is the same with men who are willing to do very bad things for money.
I know many things how they trap these people. Just trust me on this.
You can blame who ever in Russia, but the same thing is being done in the USA. Take a girl who has some issues in her life and treat her like a rock star, feed drugs, alcohol and get her addicted to this life, then you own her. Same thing can be said about men who eliminate other people. |
Not denying women are in it too just like the men. USA is just as bad as Russia, we don't advertise it like Russia. No guts no glory when it comes to telling the world what women mean to the men anymore. We have been drug by our hair since they day we were born. As long as I keep what is important to me and no one treat me like a two-bit piece of **** then I am okay. I won't fall prey to that crap as some women and I look out for myself, if a woman wants to get herself involved voluntarily then she deserves to get her a** raped and beat, all for the love of money. To the poor women who were forced (like this island this guy went too), I hope those men have daughters and their daughters get their a**es kidnapped and raped.
Drop this topic Paul...it pi**es me off. |
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Paul Holmes
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Sorry, but no. Why are you blaming the men for everything here?
You know nothing if these girls are willing travelling to live a luxurious immoral life. What about the leading whore in the USA Paris Hilton ?
I am tired of men being blamed for everything here. It is unfortunate that some women treat men as a life support system for a wallet and some men treat women as life support system for a vagina.
Look at TV shows like the Bachelor in which women fight for unknown man who is handsome and has money. I think it must be Fox TV that forced these poor innocent girls to go on the show.
These women get to live in Caribean treated like Rock star. Guess there are lots of these ladies out there. Look the one that married the president of France. She has more notches on her bed than beaver farmer. She slept with Eric Clapton then Mick Jagger in the same week. We glorify them in the press like Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, and Pam Anderson. Same as the men who exploit them. Cheaters like David Beckham also.
There is just as many shitty women as men. they are not all victims as you protray them. They are just the users.
personally I don't give a rat ass what happens in these resort or places like the Night Flight. At least the people who work there or visit know what is happening.
It is when they are lied to false marriage prosposals,false love letter and basic deception. Women scam men for money and Men scam women for sex. |
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jo jo 7
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| Paul Holmes wrote: | Sorry, but no. Why are you blaming the men for everything here?
You know nothing if these girls are willing travelling to live a luxurious immoral life. What about the leading whore in the USA Paris Hilton ?
I am tired of men being blamed for everything here. It is unfortunate that some women treat men as a life support system for a wallet and some men treat women as life support system for a vagina.
Look at TV shows like the Bachelor in which women fight for unknown man who is handsome and has money. I think it must be Fox TV that forced these poor innocent girls to go on the show.
These women get to live in Caribean treated like Rock star. Guess there are lots of these ladies out there. Look the one that married the president of France. She has more notches on her bed than beaver farmer. She slept with Eric Clapton then Mick Jagger in the same week. We glorify them in the press like Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, and Pam Anderson. Same as the men who exploit them. Cheaters like David Beckham also.
There is just as many shitty women as men. they are not all victims as you protray them. They are just the users.
personally I don't give a rat ass what happens in these resort or places like the Night Flight. At least the people who work there or visit know what is happening.
It is when they are lied to false marriage prosposals,false love letter and basic deception. Women scam men for money and Men scam women for sex. |
Life is not based on women or men in Hollywood as our role model. That kind of life does not exist or represent the average life in America or in any other part of the world...All for nothing in Hollywood...You realize that most actors and actresses have been on the casting couch to get ahead, (just a little sub-menu of prostitution). Why do you watch such crap on TV and use that as a representation for the sex industry? Then come on this forum to try to convince me that Hollywood is the blame for the sex industry. We are talking about an island of women who please men, which doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that they were coerced into doing this against their will.. When you deal the hand of cards, then you have to play it. Yes, I do blame most men for the start of the sex trade business and prostitution. If a woman uses her vagina for a wallet without being forced too, then she is not a worthy woman, but you see Paul that is only a small majority of women who think like this. You need to stop watching those Hollywood female socialites...they do not represent the true American woman...even actresses in Russia don't act like the true Russian woman. Being in that type of life has a title of "Anything goes" and no one says anything about these women running wild in Hollywood. True women who want a life not what you think we might like...doesn't everybody want a good life..not talking about the wallet now...Don't you men want the perfect woman at home and the job that pays. Any man who starts a porn business is a piece of sh**, no woman wants that type of man...most of us want a house and kids, a good husband to be the bread winner (legally). Men should be the bread winners, that is your duty as a man, as just a woman has a duty as a wife in the home. You men need to work in a job that provides women a good life at home so that us women won't be coerced into selling our bodies. We know that some men are incompetent and cannot provide the right life without starting a industry of sex and scams. You men juuuust have to be strong and not use the sex industry for your source of income.....be worthy!
Okay, I am ready for all the scolding to begin... |
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Paul Holmes
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The role model pushed on the average American or Russian is that of generic BS Holloywood or Moscovite image. How many times do you read, see or hear about the good people of your community, but no we hear about Britney, Lohan, Beckham, or rest of the crappy people. It is unfortunate that we do not promote the good things about people. Even on this forum. Everyone knows about the slime bucket Winston Wu, nothing on Randy who transport thousand goods to orphanges in St Petersburg and Dr Dan who spent 10,000s of dollars to adopt a child to give it a better life.
Shows I watch in TV are not those, but when driving in on the radio you hear about these people. I watch some sports, news, and business channels.
Island of prostitutes, well if it is what Hollywood sells, then it is what people are going to buy. Gee, I wonder if there are any girls are willing to leave cold moscow, to live in Caribean island and be pampered just for sexual favours. Hell if you go to Moscow, they are doing right now in many bars. Check out the Night Flight or Doug and Marty Boarhouse or the Hungry Duck or so on and so on. If you mean capture by financial means? Well how far is it? Does it mean that they are able to provide for their family like many women get capture in Turkey for or some of these girls that is owning Jaguar car or so on. What about the women who marry Hugh Hefner at his wrinklingly old age?
I am sorry but shit comments like "I hope those men have daughters and their daughters get their a**es kidnapped and raped. ". So if your dad did something wrong, do you think that you should be raped?
Jo, we are saying the same thing. This is a disgusting practice in which wealthy immoral men are looking for expensive sex to promote their ego and greedy women are looking for money to buy expensive things to promote their ego. I really do not care about either one until they start harm or influence good people to be bad or harmed. It is when guys go to these sex tours, then think all women are just whores or you get a man who cannot afford some venture and goes to Russia and lives off a good woman or you have a rotten woman who thinks that all American men are just a wallet so it is ok to use them or even worse when they are lied to and convinced to go to another country and used as prostitutes.
When I hear about gangs killing each other, it is not as upsetting, but when I hear about stray bullet harming an innocent person, then I get upset.
when are we going to reward and talk about the good people!! |
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jo jo 7
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| Paul Holmes wrote: | The role model pushed on the average American or Russian is that of generic BS Holloywood or Moscovite image. How many times do you read, see or hear about the good people of your community, but no we hear about Britney, Lohan, Beckham, or rest of the crappy people. It is unfortunate that we do not promote the good things about people. Even on this forum. Everyone knows about the slime bucket Winston Wu, nothing on Randy who transport thousand goods to orphanges in St Petersburg and Dr Dan who spent 10,000s of dollars to adopt a child to give it a better life.
Shows I watch in TV are not those, but when driving in on the radio you hear about these people. I watch some sports, news, and business channels.
Island of prostitutes, well if it is what Hollywood sells, then it is what people are going to buy. Gee, I wonder if there are any girls are willing to leave cold moscow, to live in Caribean island and be pampered just for sexual favours. Hell if you go to Moscow, they are doing right now in many bars. Check out the Night Flight or Doug and Marty Boarhouse or the Hungry Duck or so on and so on. If you mean capture by financial means? Well how far is it? Does it mean that they are able to provide for their family like many women get capture in Turkey for or some of these girls that is owning Jaguar car or so on. What about the women who marry Hugh Hefner at his wrinklingly old age?
I am sorry but shit comments like "I hope those men have daughters and their daughters get their a**es kidnapped and raped. ". So if your dad did something wrong, do you think that you should be raped?
Jo, we are saying the same thing. This is a disgusting practice in which wealthy immoral men are looking for expensive sex to promote their ego and greedy women are looking for money to buy expensive things to promote their ego. I really do not care about either one until they start harm or influence good people to be bad or harmed. It is when guys go to these sex tours, then think all women are just whores or you get a man who cannot afford some venture and goes to Russia and lives off a good woman or you have a rotten woman who thinks that all American men are just a wallet so it is ok to use them or even worse when they are lied to and convinced to go to another country and used as prostitutes.
When I hear about gangs killing each other, it is not as upsetting, but when I hear about stray bullet harming an innocent person, then I get upset.
when are we going to reward and talk about the good people!! |
Well, I agree with you, any woman who gets in any prostitution or sex trade voluntarily and is out for the money, her road is going to come to an end sooner or later. These men who run this trade are open for all kinds of lies to tell you, they pump up the business to make it sound real glamourous. Women getting ready, putting on make up, beautiful faces and fancy clothes to look good as they flaunt themselves for a pick...pretty soon if they don't do as they are suppose to do, then that make up will cover bruises....How many of those women got beat up when they did a so called high class trick...If a man pays alot of money to have a girl, he's going to do whatever he wants to her...he is going to get his money's worth. Lots of women might make a few thousand dollars or more, but alot of them get beat up while they are making this money. I hear about the abuse that Hollywood actresses go through as well. Those film producers are not angels...they promise you all kinds of money when you sign the contract, but you have to put out to get there...You are right you never hear good things from the real people, only bad stuff. Sorry, about the comment, but what would those men do if their daughters got in the same business that they supported? I bet a million bucks, they would have a s**t fit and do what they could to stop it from happening. Your parents are your influence. What you reap, you sew.
Hugh Hefner? I am one woman who could careless how much money he has, there is not enough on the planet that would pay me to sleep with him, even if he was younger, he has never been that attractive and men like that don't spark my spark. One on one is attractive, not one on million. I think if a Russian girl has a good Russian man she needs to stay put where she is. If he has a decent job in Russia then stay there. I guess I am one of many women who are not out for the wallet so my views are different. I would be happy in an one apartment with one man, one kid, one cat and one dog....one job that paid the bills, puts food on the table and let us go on a vacation once a year...that would be great...anything more than that seems greedy. |
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Paul Holmes
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Sorry JO,  but I have a big home with three cats no dog, but I am going to get a villa in Turkey. |
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jo jo 7
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| Paul Holmes wrote: | | Sorry JO, but I have a big home with three cats no dog, but I am going to get a villa in Turkey. |
Holy Cow! A villa? Be prepared to do alot of work keeping up a villa.  |
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gomer
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| Paul Holmes wrote: | | She has more notches on her bed than beaver farmer. |
Nice double entendre, Paul. I ate at Beavers in Moscow near Metro Marino. Good, but not too pricey for Moscow. |
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Miami
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| Life and sex is complicated I guess. More complicated than you would think at first. |
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gomer
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darthvader
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| Miami wrote: | | Life and sex is complicated I guess. More complicated than you would think at first. |
I agree, but where and when does the stork come into it all?
| gomer wrote: | http://english.pravda.ru/russia/history/06-02-2008/103906-russian_sex-0
Kiev is not Russia of course, but maybe the cultural similarities make the article's observations somewhat relevant. |
Interesting article. Requires a thread all by itself to flesh out the peculiarities. |
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