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Fire_Goddess Guest
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| MrSpice wrote: | Fire_Goddess: Shouldn't you know how to spell "victim" before making such a loud argument? Don't you think you are overreacting to what this person said and are insulting him for no reason?
There's a perception among many men - here in the US and abroad - that many American women are ovely feministic and confident and spoilt in some ways. That often makes them less approachable. That is a perception of not just one person, but of many people. As someone who immigrated here and has lived here in the US for more than 11 years, I had the same impression many times. One of the reason I believe that many American women behave in such a way is economics - most women in the US work full time. They now have no limit on how much they can achieve in terms of career and wealth which is great. But the side effect of it is that many women here feel that they know everything, they can do everything and they don't really need a man which makes many men who are genetically and traditionally want to help a woman - make her feel like a lady and be a gentleman - feel uncomfortable. Obviously, this is a generalization. As all generalizations, this may not be true in most cases. But there's something to it. Instead of trying to understand why this impressin exists, you are attacking the person for expressing a view that rather widely held. |
Get a life mr spell check, so what if I spelled it wrong! The very fact that you are making it an issue is because you dont like what I said! Get over it!! As for your views on american women and whats widely accepted, well if we go by that rule we mine as well go by every racial stereo type we hear regularly as well! This man mentioned in another post that he was 55 and looking for a woman to start a family with. His whole reason for liking russian women is because they tolerate shit! He wants a woman to kiss his ass and I wonder how the hell a woman who works full time is by any means spoiled? Why cant this man like russian women because he is attracted to them for their culture or beauty or friendlyness etc, no instead it always has to be wrapped up in an insult against american women. American women are behaving like american men, SELFISH, GREEDY, ARROGANT, AND SHALLOW!! Now american men want to start ruining women from other countries! The russian women learn quick that that some of these american men are losers, then they start acting accordingly, and suddenly the american men want to bitch about these ladies on web sites claiming that they were given ideas by feminists in this country LOL. No they saw that theres a price tag on a man with money! Also alot of these men expect their russian wives to go to work full time, just like their american counterparts, and then come home cook dinner, clean, look after children etc. Suddenly a russian woman is suppose to feel gratefull for all this? Its a very raw deal! People who love each other try to make life easier for each other, they do not exploit them!  |
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mediashark Moderator
Joined: 04 Nov 2004 Posts: 1601
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Popeye, do you know why many Russian women are the way they are? That's because of how Russian men treat them. Try coming here to Russia to find you 'wife', and see if you will be considered a real man, or even a gentleman. They will not go for selfish, greedy, arrogant and shallow men like you, unless they are desperate for money, a green card or arm-candy to show off to their similar-minded girlfriends. Boy you will have fun... |
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tripchik Lounge Lizard
Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 136 Location: Exile
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:10 am Post subject: |
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The funny part is that many Russian women make exactly the same generalised complaints about Russian men. 'Spoiled' and 'selfish'. And 'chauvinistic' in place of 'feministic'.
These girls cherish some unshakeable ideal of a 'foreign man' - even though they have never met one, nor have been further West than Minsk in their entire lives.
In both cases - the American men always complaining about women and the Russian women always complaining about men - are invariably single.
The idea of them meeting and marrying is mindbending. I don't think you can have a successful marriage between people who have some kind of general grudge against the opposite sex.
Mediashark is right that it's often repeated. But such popular generalisations easily generate a life of their own. (As in, ' all Russian women are scammers' .)
I've lived and worked in several countries. Of course there are different national characteristics. But if you are going to marry a woman from a certain country, surely you choose her because of her cultural attributes, not just as some makeweight for any perceived negative attributes of a woman from somewhere else. This makes no sense to me. Yet I hear it all the time. |
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Fire_Goddess Guest
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:52 am Post subject: |
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Who even knows what to believe about russian men. On one hand we hear about how they are violent drunkards who beat their wives, then on other we hear about how they are chivalrous. Strange planet we live on LOL. |
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vitalsigns Lounge Wizard
Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 2784
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: | Who even knows what to believe about russian men. On one hand we hear about how they are violent drunkards who beat their wives, then on other we hear about how they are chivalrous. Strange planet we live on LOL. |
They are both! Go figure!  |
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dreken Just Starting
Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Posts: 1 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject: big mistake |
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Hello i totally cant agree that good dressed woman is straight way easy woman. Girls on the east of Europe are beautiful and that's the way they dress. There is nothing more wonderful that perfectly fit woman in mini during summer. As far as i know that's what for they been design.
Look at Ireland why there is no sex tourism even the girls are easier then in thailand,they wearing mini and short tops in middle winter. Most of them are so drunk that you dont have to buy them drink Why not dublin he? Because they mostly fat and ugly. Where ever you have pretty girls you have men around them. Some are looking for fun some for something more. Of course you can see old Germans or Americans with girls 20 or 30 years younger. But always and every where sugar daddy exist. As far as i know most of the girls would slap them for such a proposition. |
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Paul Holmes VIP
Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 969
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Pretty girls who go to bars all the time, become fat and ugly.No matter what country you go. |
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Fire_Goddess Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: big mistake |
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| dreken wrote: | Hello i totally cant agree that good dressed woman is straight way easy woman. Girls on the east of Europe are beautiful and that's the way they dress. There is nothing more wonderful that perfectly fit woman in mini during summer. As far as i know that's what for they been design.
Look at Ireland why there is no sex tourism even the girls are easier then in thailand,they wearing mini and short tops in middle winter. Most of them are so drunk that you dont have to buy them drink Why not dublin he? Because they mostly fat and ugly. Where ever you have pretty girls you have men around them. Some are looking for fun some for something more. Of course you can see old Germans or Americans with girls 20 or 30 years younger. But always and every where sugar daddy exist. As far as i know most of the girls would slap them for such a proposition. |
Then there are those sexy Irish men (gag gag)  |
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Muppet Lounge Lizard
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 105
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: | Who even knows what to believe about russian men. On one hand we hear about how they are violent drunkards who beat their wives, then on other we hear about how they are chivalrous. Strange planet we live on LOL. |
I think you'll find that the two stereotypes you mention tend to follow each other, but in reverse order... 1st Chivalrous, 2nd Drunk husband.
Of course I'm biased as most of my friends there are women.  |
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Fire_Goddess Guest
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Then in that case they arent much different than alot of men on this planet who are sweet at first and then turn abusive later. |
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Muppet Lounge Lizard
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 105
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: | Then in that case they arent much different than alot of men on this planet who are sweet at first and then turn abusive later. |
LOL. Apparently I'm even nicer when I'm drunk, before I fall asleep.  |
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Fire_Goddess Guest
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hopefully not too nice or else you could be in some big trouble  |
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard
Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4919 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey that's not nice. I'm Irish and I don't even drink. By the way, an Irishman is never drunk , if he can hold on to a blade of grass, and not fall off the face of the earth. |
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Fire_Goddess Guest
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| yorbcbud wrote: | | Hey that's not nice. I'm Irish and I don't even drink. By the way, an Irishman is never drunk , if he can hold on to a blade of grass, and not fall off the face of the earth. |
The man was ragging on ugly irish women in bars. As if their male counterparts are any better looking while shitfaced and suffering from periodontal disease.  |
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Muppet Lounge Lizard
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 105
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: | Hopefully not too nice or else you could be in some big trouble  |
No trouble, fell asleep too early...
Not popular!  |
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