| Author |
Message |
sputnik
Lounge Lizard
Joined: 02 Jan 2005
Posts: 141
|
 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:02 pm Post subject: |
 |
|
| Intourist wrote: | If they were really melting the glass down, you'd think the only consideration would be color, not size and make.
"Things that make you go hmmmmmm" |
Well.. as Vic pointed out already: the bottles are being re-used. That's not just a Russian peculiarity. Checking it with the bottle next to me: 'This bottle remains the property of Grolsch brewery Enschede'. I know it is hard to accept it: someone else claiming your beer bottle. But at least we know now why they offer us money to get them back  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Jutrzenkapolska
VIP
Joined: 16 Sep 2004
Posts: 534
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| You know that the company adds 5 cents onto the price of every can for the aluminum? Recycling isn't making 5 cents; it's getting back your nickel which Budweiser took, rather borrowed. People who don't recycle are literally paying a fine for not returning the firm's property. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Mogsfan
WayToRussified
Joined: 03 Nov 2004
Posts: 490
|
| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
That's a shame and disappointing. At least in Canada and probably, the U.S., it is an important issue and it is actually part of government policy (albeit, implemented rather carelessly and somewhat inefficiently). There is supposed to be separate bins for newspapers, bottles, cans etc. But, good luck finding them. You are supposed to buy different coloured bags and then figure out (yourself) which goes into where. You can look it up but the government is supposed to send some info (but I don't know when they do this.) Then the municipal garbage collector picks the bags up and you hope they recycle them. If you want to go to the trouble, you can bring all your recyclables to a centralized location and separate them there. I did sometimes, when I passed the place (but, it was outside the city so I usually only did when it was on a route to some particular destination).
But, if you don't want to collect everything for the week or you're not at home when you have an empty bottle, can, milk jug or finished reading a newspaper (at work), you will be hardpressed to find a separate recycling bin for each item. It's a rather sloppy system the inept government has implemented when they could do a much better job if they put some thought and planning into it. It's expensive but they waste tax dollars with the current system they do have which has been changed several times. You once were required to bring empty bottles to the general stores but store owners complained (to the government) about this and you had lazy customers who didn't want to bother.
The government has to have initiative, a good plan and DESIRE to implement a decent system and they need to make it convenient.
Some countries need to make it government policy and implement their own systems.
| Intourist wrote: | | Mogsfan wrote: |
What does Russia (e.g. Moscow and St. Petersburg) do, if anything? |
Not much, at least visibly. There is some household recycling, but mostly only to the extent that bums extract beer bottles from the dumpsters for a measely few kopeks per bottle.
On a commercial level (and perhaps only because it's profitable) metal scrap, empty printer cartridges, and the like are recycled.
But on the whole, I'd say recycling is a pretty non-existant concept here. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Mogsfan
WayToRussified
Joined: 03 Nov 2004
Posts: 490
|
| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Jutrzenkapolska wrote: | | Mogs, I'm very sorry to inform you of this as a fellow enviormentalist but recycling is bullshit.At least paper and plastic recycling.It's counter-productive and uses more energy and resources than it saves.Sad but true. |
That's because governments are full of liars. They insist recycling and the environment is an important agenda but the systems they implement are pathetic at best. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
vettra
Lounge Lizard
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Posts: 123
Location: Cleveland
|
| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| i hope this aint some american trying to open a trash hauling business in russia. too many guys thinking of Russia as the new emerging market |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
