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wwwadim, those wooden homes look cozy. How much do those houses cost? Can a foreigner buy into the housing market? I also heard that there are wooden structures in Russia that are nailess?!?
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UsualSuspect
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:28 am Post subject: Xela - It doesn't???? |
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For Xela,
What?? Have I been sucked into an Urban Myth? Which way does it rotate up there? At my wifes place it went anti clockwise, whereas in my own sink it went clockwise. Or maybe I reached saturation level with vodka and it was my head that was rotating?
So....how about some people up there pull the plug in the sink and tell me what direction the water rotates? I'll do the same at my end!.
Back on Topic.
Most three bedroom houses here tend to have a separate bath and shower in the same room. My parents house had two bathrooms, but it was a large 70's four bedroom job.
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Xela
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UsualSuspect,
Wrong, the water goes the same way. It has the appearance of doing so on the surface, because of Coriolis Effect, but there are some times in Oz where even this doesn't happen.
Ironically, you might have been right about the vodka.. |
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mediashark
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Xela
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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cyndy22
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:21 am Post subject: |
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My house was built by Greek immigrants in the 1960's and let me tell you they knew woodworking and carpentry. The exterior is brick mostly. The house is solid unlike many modern houses fabricated today. While it is not really my dream house, I am far more practicle and knew that this house was good. The foundation is so solid that it would take a big Earthquake to shake it. We finished the extremely large basement off a few years ago. Now it is a very homey, comfortable space to relax and entertain. There is a full bar and wet sink, living room and big screened tv, game room with billiuords and a play room for children.
In our main floor living area we have a dining room, small but adequate kitchen, Alex's bedroom, my office, full bathroom, large living room with marble fireplace, our bedroom and half bathroom. ALL THE WOODWORK, FLOORS, DOORS ETC. is OAK. WE EVEN have an oak communion railing carved so beUTIFULLY FROM A cHURCH IN OUR FOYER.
We have a large plot, almost one acre aND It is fairly private. Five years ago we built an inground swimming pool and pool house. Best decision ever.
I realize that many Russians especially city folks do not especially feel interested in private houses. It is their loss I am afraid and in 40 years, I hope many more Russians will have their own homes. |
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MrSpice
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| You have quite an estate over there... In New York it would cost a fortune. I think many russians would love to have this kind of property. |
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cyndy22
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Mr. Spice,
I respect you and understand that most Russians grew up in apartments in large sovet buildings. In the US as well, people accustommed to city life and that usually means apartments have a tendency to feel more at home in apartments.
But if people are able to make changes, dream and alternative housing is an option., and luck, money, etc, is involved, Yes I think most people would love the opportunity to have their own home even with extended family members which many Russiuan immigrantse have.
My home is not paradise but yes it is very comfortable and we are lucky as human beings to live here. Apartments can be nice, convenient and neighbor friendly, but the same is true for houses. I think privacy and self determination re housing improvements as well as neighborhood and community development have a lot to be desired. I think Russia is slowly on its way to better housing but economics and social conditions still inhibit housing free enterprise. |
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vettra
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| wwwadim wrote: | It not a ghetto, and quite little decent area
...in city Kostanai the apartment with 2 bedrooms could be bought for 5000$ |
ouch, I did not mean your house! I was writing about Wilkinsburgh (Pittsburgh) PA: THAT is a ghetto! Sorry!
I am curious: what is a "ghetto", to you? In America, this is a place that Lyndon Johnson created for homeless people, so that he could say "All Americans live in a house!". These places are called "the projects". Now only black people live there and the ghetto is very dangerous. A good place to buy drugs and shoot guns. Every large American city has many such ghettos.
What about Russia? Are there "ghetttos" in Russia? Who lives there, and why?
Thank you for the info about prices in Kazakstan! I will go there and buy an apartment, if it is possible for an American to own a place!!!! Ya, baby, $5K...... |
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cyndy22
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Vettra is confused about what he considers ghetto apts. in the US and certain presidential motives for creating ghettos. I am totally amazed that this fire cracker landed a job in Russia so he says for the US State Dept.
Vettra has no clue about so called "projects" that he refers to re housing complexes for low income people. Most who qualify to live in the subsidized apts. are minorities, disabled and elderly people without resources. They certainly are not all Black ghettos and/ or drug trafficking places. Vettra apparently is out of touch with life in the US at this time in his life.
And thank God there are housing projects for the disenfranchised in the US. And truthfully most of these housing projects are in par with the majority of apt. buildings in Russia. |
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vettra
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| <anymore of name-calling and personal insults from you and you're banned. -mod> |
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neilrowland
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TUT TUT CHILDREN BEHAVE.....
In London the Georgian and Victorian housing stock is the most prefered style of house in London. There has been a huge housing boom in London over recent years so much so that the trades people to build new housing stock does not meet demand, as the population grows and more foreiners settle in London so the boom continues and house prices are at such a high level that a single person or even a couple on an average salary cant afford to buy a property. The shortage of skilled labour and huge demand for housing stock has meant alot of affordable housing developments are constructed quickly and with little care or attention to both design and building methods.
There is one example where I personally have experienced a house constructed of brick with gypsum board tacked to the inner walls and poorly laid foundations, this meant that RATS were able to penertrate the foundations from the sewer system into the wall cavitys and the RATS were able to get into the loft of the house. Not very nice.....
(In london a human being is never more than 3 meters away from a RAT.)
Alot of the building work force is now from eastern european countries Russia included, this work force is considered cheap labour, the existing labour in London feels that their jobs are under threat. Although some of this foreign labour is of good quality some are quite bad and as a Londoner I cant help thinking that this work force has little reason to carry out a decent job when they are economical migrants trying to make quick easy money.
Having said that I have met a team of Russian builders managed by a south african who are very good indeed. But there electrical work is less desired.
In fact I have a question. "What are the electrics like in Russia?? Safe and reliable??" |
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Xela
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Very good, Neil,
You obviously have a great deal of knowledge about the housing situation in London.
Although it must be pointed out that many of the workforce do not actually come from Russia herself, but from other countries(but people just label them Russians because they don't know any better).
The East European builders are capable of building some very good houses, but they don't always pay attention to detail, and if you look closely enough you will find corners being cut.
You are right in saying that there is little incentive to build with pride, but it is also important to note that many are just plain incompetant, having gained their jobs by forging previous work experience that makes them the equivalent of an experienced hand at Taylor-Woodrow.
I believe that the influx of foreign workers will soon drop due to over-exceeding the limits granted by the new lax in EU laws, and in a few years there will be another boom of migrants willing to work for even cheaper when the EU laws are re-re-revised.
(ps Side-note to previous discussion)
Ghettos or Zulags originated in Eastern Europe; although not for the same reason, and the term when used today is for slang puposes.
Please Vettra, stop giving Cyndy a hard time.. if there are people in here who are deserved of it, then believe me, she is not one of them. |
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cyndy22
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Just want to say a big thank you to Xela for sticking up for me. I appreciate it and for those who are familiar with old Saturday night live episodes-
"I'm a good person. People like me. I deserve good things because I am special"...  |
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