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the-fox
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 Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:07 am Post subject: Russian Citizenship |
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Well, first of all hello!
I'm not sure if this question belongs to this forum, so feel free to delete it.
Well i was born in russia when it was a part of the soviet union.
My entire family was born there.
We immigrated to Israel in 1992, and my parents citizenship "expired".
We might be intrested to renew it, if this is possible.
Can anybody, please, expandon the proccess of "renewing" the citizenship? and how much it will cost?
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init6
WayToRussified
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
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Location: Москва, Россия
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:56 am Post subject: |
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The first thing is to either visit or contact the Russian embassy. They can tell you exactly what the story is, whereas here we can only speculate. Hopefully you still speak Russian.  |
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the-fox
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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I can speak russian, yes i can 
i thought about contacting the emmbassy or the consol, but it's inaccessible, you know over 1 million russian immigrates...
Spaculations are welcomed,
thanks |
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vitalsigns
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Russian Citizenship |
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Yes, deleted.
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e
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Well i was born in russia when it was a part of the soviet union.
My entire family was born there.
We immigrated to Israel in 1992, and my parents citizenship "expired".
We might be intrested to renew it, if this is possible.
Can anybody, please, expandon the proccess of "renewing" the citizenship? and how much it will cost?
Thank in advance |
To help with the "speculation", I suppose you can if you didn't become Israeli citizens. If you did, and if Israel and Russia do not have a dual citizenship agreement, then most likely you can't and don't have to.  Russian policy states that Russians who have become citizens of another country will be more or less treated like foreigners: i.e. they'll need visas to visit (unless they are dual citizens) just like everyone else.
A simple phone call or visit to your local Russian consulate and/or Embassy should answer your question. |
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vitalsigns
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Yes, deleted.
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e
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| Russian citizenship is most certainly is the exception which is what his original question is, and not whether or not he can gain Israeli citizenship. Russia doesn't officially allow dual citizenship with anyone except with the CIS and a select few countries, while Israel may allow duality with the US and other countries, it may not with Russia (unless someone can shed some light on this). This is why he should consult with both countries to confirm this and see what his options are. |
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cyndy22
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Location: massachusetts
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El Casey and E,
Both of you have not yet been to Russia, though you both think you know everything about this vast country. I repeat- Russia does not recognize dual citizenship. Perhaps you are having problems with your own language and don't understand this. El Casey i Hope you have a guardian angel, you are gonna need one. |
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init6
WayToRussified
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
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Location: Москва, Россия
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It's called reading books. And uh, E has been to Russia. What's the longest you've been there? Three weeks? A month? I'm not just visiting, I'm moving there. You said yourself that you didn't have a very good time in Pitr this time. Does that make you an expert?
I don't pretend to know anything that I don't. I know facts that I've read by respected journalists and authors about a subject I'm interested in - Russia, specifically post-Soviet Russia. How many books have you read about Russia? How many books about American politics and what's actually happening in this country have you read, since because I dare to criticize the regime that's dragging the country down I'm so "discriminatory" against the US?
Just because you disagree with us often, Cyndy, doesn't mean it needs to become personal. Why do you always try to make it that way?  |
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cyndy22
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Why do you refer to "us" El Casey when you seem to hope for any form of consensus with respect to your individualized post? E has the same problem. So you are book smart. I know alot of academic people and book smart only goes so far.  Life experience is far more educating Mr. wanna we world class journalist. btw what has been your working job lately?
Don't get me wrong, because I do suspect you are sincere about your gouls and philosophy. You are however wrong to imply that I am naive or at least unknowing about Russia. We adopted our son from Yekaterinburg in 1998 and from that time on, believe me I have immersed myself in Russian culture and language. Not so much politics but none the less I am not some ignorant AMERICAN RE RUSSIA. A
Also just because our recent visit to Piter was not up to our standards, God forbid, how dare you imply that we have less experience in this country and culture as you! Unfortnateltly El Casey, you seem to think and take some morbid satisfaction with your peculiar views that American society is so perverse. But you really have no clue about Russian culture or even sadly your own. |
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MrSpice
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| cyndy: One thing you fail to understand though is that the problem I and some other people here had with your recent travel experience to Russia was not that you did not like it, but you reasons for not liking it. Russia is not for everyone and many people would find St Petersburg boring and uninteresting. Some people don't like museums. Some people really appreciate good service and demand western standards in everything and would hate getting visas, standing in lines at airports, etc. But you were supposed to know about certain shortcomings of Russia as a country. You claim to know so much about Russia, russian culture - things I myself care little about (I mostly read american newspapers and my usual reaing materials are the Economist magazine, New York Times and Wall Street Journal). Your list of things you liked about russia included vodka and blinzes and russian food - something widely available in New York City withing 3-hour drive from your house. People come to St Petersburg to see the architecture and to see the city, and borrowinfg towels from your hotel has nothing to do with that... |
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MrSpice
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| e - while I don't agree with some of cyndy's posts, you certainly make yourself a fool on this forum on a regular basis without realizing it. While cyndy does not know you personally, she can have some idea of what you are like as a person based on your long, convoluted posts containing countless links and references and arguments that are often based on your believes rather than knowledge and real experience |
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cyndy22
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You are wrong Mr. Spice. There were other things I appreciated in St. Petersburg. I actually did not have much vodka and blini there, well piva yes!
Seriously I enjoyed seeing the canals and architecture, there, who wouldn't? I loved having my Russian friend be our travel guide and did like driving in her Lada. The boat canal tour was wonderful. Church of Spilled Bood is the most beautiful building I have ever seen. Peterhof was stunning as Pushkin. It was fun to meet our friends for dinner. The ballet was a great night at the Massinsky theatre. Unfortunately you have great difficulty comprehending that a tourist, even someone who has a passion for Russia, can also have critical experiences which also shaped MY experience. Not your experience!
And as far as your comments re my knowledge of Russia and your expectations that I should have known otherwise about the poor service, hotels and access problems, I believe I explained in several posts that I admit that I HAD A ROMANTICIZED NOTION OF RUSSIA. You have not been able to really hear that. For the record even if I was more cognizant of the poor service, standards, access etc, I would of still made the trip I think. People who trave anywhere are all unique and have u ique experiences. I really don't care what you think about my experience because you don't seem to get it anyway. |
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Anya
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Folks, while some of us can post pretty stupid-looking things, there is no need to trample on him or her. Point out mistakes politely, and if he/she still doesn't get it, just ignore.
And what's more no matter how long you've lived in Russia, you'll never understand Russia. (You have to believe in Russia! ) |
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cyndy22
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Anya you're right,
I am sorry for taking a harsh tone with you Mr. Spice. Simply, I just was annoyed that you don't understand me, but that's ok. It is difficult to always understand where people are coming from their experiences and perspectives. I don't always understand people either.
What do you mean Anya re You have to believe in Russia? |
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