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waytorussia
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 5:20 pm    Post subject: Russian citizenship rules ease Reply with quote

Before reading this, please, see our guide on how to become a Russian citizen here: http://waytorussia.net/RussianVisa/Status.html

You may also be interested in how to marry in Russia: http://waytorussia.net/Practicalities/Marriage.html as it makes things a bit easier with the new rules outlined below.

If you have any questions -- post them here and we'll be happy to help if we can... Smile

Oh yes, and don't even think about becoming a Russian citizen if you don't intend to permanently settle here: the process is so hard and you need so much paperwork that it will eat a few months of your time.
If you just want to be able to stay in Russia a long time,you can do like most people: get a 1-year multiple entry so-called "business" visa. See more information about this here: http://waytorussia.net/RussianVisa/Info.html

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On 11th November 2003 the law, which regulates the procedure of getting a Russian citizenship was changed and the new rules were introduced to ease the process of getting a Russian nationality.

Here are the new regulations that concern foreigners living in Russia (or foreigners, NOT from former CIS countries, who want to get Russian citizenship):

1. If a foreign citizen has been married to a Russian person for not less than 3 years AND is living in Russia at the moment, then he / she can get Russian citizeship through a simplified procedure. That is, there's no need to have a minimal period of consecurive stay in Russia after which you can apply for the Russian nationality.
If you are married to a Russian person for less than 3 years, then you don't have any advantages compared to anybody else. You will still need to present (1) a proof that you has been living in Russia for the last 5 years and stayed in Russia not less than 75% of all this time; (2) proof of sufficient income; (3) proof that you know Russian language; (4) permit of stay.

2. If a foreign citizen has at least one parent who has Russian citizenship and is living in Russia at the moment, the same simplified rules as described above apply (no need for minimum period of stay).

If you want to use these rules, you should apply before 1 January 2006. Also, note, that to apply for Russian citizenship under these new rules, you still need to get a permit of stay. The permit of stay can be obtained only if you arrived to Russia on a private visa (made after the private invitation). To ease everything up it is better to ask your wife (or parents) to make the personal invitation for you. This process is quite long and hard, and the permit of stay is a very INflexible document (e.g. you'll need to get an "exit visa" every time you leave Russia). However, if you are after Russian citizenship and you are OK staying in Russia most of the time, then these new rules will be good news for you.

Please, note, that the law will be implemented on 16 December 2003, and it might take some time for the Russian immigration officials to "accept" it.
Also, most of the new rules were made to ease the process of getting citizenship for the citizens of former CIS countries, and there can be unclear interpretations of some things written in the law by officials.


Here's a link to the full text of the law WITHOUT the new changes:
http://www.akdi.ru/gd/proekt/086205GD.SHTM (in Russian)

Here's a link to the Russian text of the new changes to the law:
http://www.rg.ru/2003/11/13/zakon.html (in Russian)

Here's a link to the leading Russian legal database (GARANT) experts comment on the law:
http://www.garant.ru/nav.php?pid=39&ssid=58&view=new&nid=365 (in Russian)


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mcgroo
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

Thanks for posting the info on getting Russian citizenship if your spouse is Russian.

Do you know if the rule changes you mentioned in your post were passed?

Also, do you know where's best to get advice on the procedures involved, in particular the 'Permit of Stay' and then the procedure following that?, eg websites with detailed info, or maybe a Russian law firm able to advise?

You say there's no minimum period of consecutive stay, but how long would the stay need to be in Russia in order to obtain first the 'Permit of Stay' and then the actual procedure for obtaining citizenship?

Thanks for your help!
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YanaLee
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 1:33 am    Post subject: Dual citizenship Reply with quote

Hello, I hope you can asnwer my questions. I was born in Russia, but then moved to Belarus. After Belarus became independent I became a Belorussian citizen. Right now I live in USA and have a United States citizenship. I wonder what are the laws on dual citizenship and if it exists and I wonder if being born in Russia will help me get a Russian citizenship.
Thank you.
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DavidC
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 1:43 am    Post subject: Re: Dual citizenship Reply with quote

One of my good friends, American citizen, married a Russian woman. She became a naturalized American citizen. Even though she gave up her Russia citizenship, when she returned to Russia, they considered her as a Russian citizen and detained her for "tax evasion". My friend had to fly to Moscow to bail her out. They are still "fighting" the system.

I don't think you would have any problem getting a dual citizenship as Russia considers anyone born in Russia as her Citizen.


YanaLee wrote:
Hello, I hope you can asnwer my questions. I was born in Russia, but then moved to Belarus. After Belarus became independent I became a Belorussian citizen. Right now I live in USA and have a United States citizenship. I wonder what are the laws on dual citizenship and if it exists and I wonder if being born in Russia will help me get a Russian citizenship.
Thank you.
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e
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Hello, I hope you can asnwer my questions. I was born in Russia, but then moved to Belarus. After Belarus became independent I became a Belorussian citizen. Right now I live in USA and have a United States citizenship. I wonder what are the laws on dual citizenship and if it exists and I wonder if being born in Russia will help me get a Russian citizenship.
Thank you.


The US only allows dual citizenship with only a few countries and unfortunately (unless i'm mistaken) Belarus and Russia aren't it. Technically, you are no longer a Belarus national as you "forfeited" your Belarus citizenship when you got sworn in.

However, "forfeiture" is only recognized "technically" and you can probably still apply for a Belarussian passport without any problems. As the previous poster said, Belarus will still see you as a citizen and will have no problems treating as you one especially when they want to you pay taxes, do military service or whatever. In such a situation, the US government will allow it based on the premise that: "you are still a Belarussian citizen and they can do whatever they like to you" even though you're a naturalized American.

The US state departments info on it here:
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

Good luck!
Very Happy
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AfroRusse
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Getting the Russian citizenship Reply with quote

Hey! Your message on how to get the russian citizenship was really informative! Now I would like to know the following:
-what does CIS stand for?
-and what about applying for the citizenship when you have a Russian parent/or grand-parent! My Great grand-father was russian. Can I still apply for the citiziship? What are the requirements?

Thx loads for replying whenever Very Happy ...Take care!!

AfroRusse
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p_m1984
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: Getting the Russian citizenship Reply with quote

AfroRusse wrote:
Hey! Your message on how to get the russian citizenship was really informative! Now I would like to know the following:
-what does CIS stand for?
-and what about applying for the citizenship when you have a Russian parent/or grand-parent! My Great grand-father was russian. Can I still apply for the citiziship? What are the requirements?

Thx loads for replying whenever Very Happy ...Take care!!

AfroRusse


CIS - Commonwealth of Independent States (the former entities of the Soviet Union, minus Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania)

I don't think you have grounds for acquiring citizenship on the basis of your distant ancestry. You would have to either go through the temporary residence or marriage routes.

Pete
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goeast
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:10 pm    Post subject: Citizenship for husband of Russian woman Reply with quote

These posts make me feel positive about the citizenship. I'm in the process of making a film and for funding purposes it would be better to be Russian than American. My wife is Russian born, and my son (actual) was born also in Russia. I lived there 6 years when it was easy to apply for the citizenship.

I looked into doing this in Moscow but the lawyer there said it might be easier in America via the consulate. Is this the case? Any experience here?

What is the time frame? It was listed as three years in Moscow. Is it less via the consulate? ALSO; is it better to use a lawyer and if all this is better in the states side, does anyone know one who does this?

Best,
Tony
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me111
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Citizenship Reply with quote

My situation is as follows: A British student at Moscow University for seven and a half years. Fluent Russian. Will be married to a Russian citizen shortly. Am currently in Russia with a student visa. I intend to reside in Russia from now on. Am I eligible to apply for Russian citizenship and what is involved in obtaining this? Also being twenty-seven years of age will I have to undertake compulsory military service? Thanks greatly in anticipation of your answers.
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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://waytorussia.net/RussianVisa/Status.html
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me111
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Russian Citizenship Reply with quote

thanks - but any specifics?
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ntrgc89
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
being twenty-seven years of age will I have to undertake compulsory military service?


Russia looks for young men ages 18-27 for military service (acutally I heard a while ago that it's changed to 18-25, but I can't confirm that). If you look like you're much older than 27, you might be OK, but I would recommend waiting until your 28th birthday to apply for Russian citizenship. In case you haven't heard the stories (which I'm sure you have, being in Moscow for almost 8 years), DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, EVEN THINK ABOUT CARRYING OUT THE COMPULSORY MILITARY SERVICE. In any case, if you do carry it out, by the time you're done with it, you'd be past the military age anyway.

As for your other questions I cannot give you 100% definite answers, but if you have lived in Russia for at least five years and have not left Russia for a period longer than 3 months in any one given year, then you should be eligible for citizenship. The fact that you will soon marry a Russian citizen should help a little.

I would recommend talking to a lawyer or some expert on these matters, but overall I'd say your prospects for citizenship look good.
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traveler3
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To DavidC:

they detained her for tax evasion? That sounds quite unusual. Never heard of such things? What if she's never worked in the US?
I've seen many naturalized US citizens, being also Russian citizens, having no problems like that in Russia...
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kumar55038
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HI,
I am an Indian Citizen and i love to a russian girl. We want to marry in 2007.We will live together in russia after marry. Can you tell me which is the better way to get married? Where we will have to marry means in india or in russia?
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vulkan968
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:29 am    Post subject: Russia Reply with quote

Hello there,

I am Serb currently living in Canada and I am interested in getting Russian citizenship. I have to say that I have never been in Russia, but I want to live there 'till the end of my life. Simply as that, I don't want to go now into details now, but I would like to see if I have any chances. I am married, 38 years old. We have one child and we were all born in Montenegro 'Црна Гора'. Both of us have university degree from Сербија и Црна Гора. I am in IT know and have certifications among them, Microsoft and the other...

What would be the first step? Can I contact embassy here in Canada?

Спасиба

Sorry on my Russian.
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