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Russian History: War Time
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Saint-Misery
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:55 pm    Post subject: Russian History: War Time Reply with quote

Alright, I'm putting this here because it mentioned truths about Russian history.

This is one of the main reasons I joined here. I have a serious need to know some things about Russia in war-time, to anyone who is historically inclined or feels like doing some research, 'cause I'm really tired of looking. I was leaning toward the WWI / WWII eras, if that's alright, but any information about wars in Russia at all would suffice.

I need to know about a soldier's typical day (their life in war-time.) This would include: the sort of food they would eat, and the condition it may be in between arrivals. Hardships they faced (i.e.: I know footwear was probably in shortage.) When receiving letters (or tapes?) from loved ones, who would deliver it to the site, and how would it be received (delivered personally by someone else in their company, a higher up, or someone specified to do that job?) How was the weather during seasons on the Russian front?

-- Just that sort've thing. I'm doing some writing and need this sort of information, if it doesn't bother anyone. I'm very patient. I'd even appreciate if someone could get hold of some transcripts from a Russian soldier's account / diary, instead of spilling the information here.

I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance.
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snoof777
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: do you own research Reply with quote

its obvious you dont know anything about russian history in ww1 or 2 and you want someone else to do your research work. go read a book.
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wu687
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look at:
http://eng.9may.ru/
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mediashark
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you, some school kid who wants someone to write your paper?

What do you mean you are 'tired of looking'. There are dozens of books, letters and papers written about Russia during WWI and WWII. Or even go watch some movies. You can google stuff for all I care, but this forum is not for finding someone to do your homework.
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Saint-Misery
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, it's not homework. Here's why I'm asking others:


1.) I am an adult. My "profession" if you would call it, is a writer. I write.

2.) My library is off on holiday (for god knows what reason.)

3.) My only other access to books of the needed type is the local college or schools, which are also closed.

4.) Given that it's the holidays, I've no money to get on the internet at the moment and buy any books.

5.) As a writer I was taught to reach out to every source; this is a source.

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I am very historically inclined myself, but not in the war aspects of history (except for Roman history.) Well, as far as details of things lay, anyway. I'll readily admit to that and pose the idea that this is indeed why I posted for help in the first place. I already "Googled" it-- and couldn't find the material I wanted. It's obvious I need help from someone who already knows this information, or knows where to find it.

wu687 -- Thanks. It's appreciated.
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mediashark
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even as a writer, that is pretty weak.

This is a TRAVEL forum, most of us aren't historians, and we look at history mostly from a travellers point of view. Which means we are probably going back to google things anyway.

If you really need info from other people, you might want to subscribe to newsgroups (you can view them on google) that are related to Russia and WWI/II history. Dig into David Johnsons archives at CDI, or better yet, subscribe to his list and send him a message or contact other writers, researchers and historians. You'll get replies from all sorts of people who could help you.
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Saint-Misery
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me say this: you don't need to be a historian to know about history. And as a writer, you reach out to all resources. And a forum filled with people who are Russian or know about Russia is a good place to find a small bit of help with finding information. I did end up finding what I need via this forum. Wu's site actually led me to a Russian search engine that I surfed through. Though, as expected, I came across more Russian than I could handle (mine's very rusty), and had to get it translated. But the point is that I benefited from it, so it did help as I predicted it would. Thus, no, it wasn't weak at all. I will get the rest of my information when everything is off holiday. I'll have access to books by then.

Anyway, thanks for the help.
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Fire_Goddess
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes Most of this information can be found on the internet by simply typing in the right key words. Also since it is the holidays and all, why cant you just take a vacation from your burning desire to write this book? Why does it have to happen NOW? You must be one hell of a writer if you decide to write a book about a particular subject at the drop of a hat, without bothering to gather your materials before the holidays started! Razz
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waytorussia
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mediashark, I think this post was not very nice of you.

The topic relates to the Russian history. Way to Russia is not only a travel information resource, it's an information resource about Russia. So, he posted it in the right thread.

Also, what's wrong with being a school-kid who is writing a paper and wants some help?
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mediashark
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a writer too, and I never ask for someone to do my research, especially if it's such a broad and widely-documented topic like Russian military history, and the other replies here echo my sentiment. I know what I am talking about. And no, I am not inclined to be nice.
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feathered_synapse
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a cranky lot you are.

"No, I'm not inclined to be nice!"


Rofl
You sound like that green dude that lives in a garbage can.
Don't get your knickers in a twist just because someone came looking for a little information, and didn't do things the way YOU think they should be done.

No need to get mad because Saint asked something you're not familiar with. All you had to say is "I don't know". It's a lot easier than wasting your time typing all of that rubbish. It's okay if you're clueless, no one will make fun of you for it. Well, with the exception of me.


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Also since it is the holidays and all, why cant you just take a vacation from your burning desire to write this book?


Why don't you take a vacation from your burning desire to stick a barbie doll where it doesn't belong?

Ho ho. Couldn't resist.
Bunch of cranky old folks. Go take a valium, the lot of you. Then write a book about your travels to owntsburg.

Have a nice day Smile
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Saint-Misery
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's also entirely possible that:

1.) I have a life, meaning when it's not the holidays, I am far too busy and far too stressed to write. I do do most of my research then.

2.) I got the idea to write it recently, during the holidays, and want to get started on my research *now*, rather than later, to keep myself inspired.

3.) It's absolutely ridiculous that you treat a subject so critically, it was a simple request.

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I am a writer too, and I never ask for someone to do my research, especially if it's such a broad and widely-documented topic like Russian military history, and the other replies here echo my sentiment.


Who ever said I asked anyone to do my research? I don't expect them to read for me, or analyze, or anything.

1.) The questions I asked were NOT broad, and *that* is why I needed help. They were far too specific, and any material I found was too vague.

2.) People are a source of information. I said before, you don't have to be a historian to know about history, so asking someone who knows about history is just as credible as asking a historian in my eyes as far as accurate information, thus making it a source, and furthermore something I would reach out to for information.

The fact you need to create such drama over this is absolutely amazing. Given that I *did* find what I needed here, your posts are irrelevant. And no, he didn't do research for me, but the page he gave me led me on to *find* what I needed, and that was the sort of help that I wanted, and never would've found if I "googled" it on my own.

And your lack of inclination toward being nice doesn't matter, it's not like you're capable of offending anyone but those who are weak of will.
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mediashark
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

broadly-documented and broad (as in vague) are different things.

I did give you some pointers, if you had bothered.

There are a lot of war stories being told and retold by veterans, especially around Victory Day, and they get written and rewritten year by year. One of my family members fought in WWII. And every year the stories come up again, so featherered synapse, I do know where to dig.
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Saint-Misery
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I found some of those memoirs.

http://www.iremember.ru/

It was the sort of thing I was looking for, but I couldn't find it on Google. I'll check around some other sites in the directory, but that's the best I've found so far. I've compiled quite a few notes from it.

And yes, I did notice. Thanks.
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mediashark
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could get lucky reading some russian politicians memoirs, especially the older ones, who probably have friends or relatives at the fronts, but you are really better off when the library is open.

(hint, Putin's dad was a soldier)
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