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Prill Frequent Guest
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: If stalin invaded modern russia with soviet soldiers |
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If somehow a rift in time occured in russia and stalin invaded modern putin era russia with a huge army of soviet soldiers from the 1950s then apart from stalin making putin very angry would the russian armed forces be able to defeat stalins invading legions. if say stalin invaded from siberia with a huge army from the past and if putin won then would he order a invasion into stalins russia.  |
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mediashark Moderator
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| and the point of this scenario is...???? |
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vitalsigns Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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From what I understand the success of Stalin's army was driven more by patriotism of people than skills or sufficient eqiupment provision. If it wasn't for the bitter cold russian winter then who knows what the outcome would there have been in the battle for Stalingrad.
The unpreparedness and enormous losses that the current army had in Chechnya were astounding. With all the equipment that there's there for the army to use, it seems like the soldiers are low on skills and patriotism and who knows what.
In your scenario, I think both armies would call to one another and after they'd realize they were all russians they would have hugged, kissed and sat down to drink vodka. La, da, dee, da, da. |
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vorteks VIP
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| How old are you prill? |
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Prill Frequent Guest
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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I am 17 and I have a friend who made me login and ask the question
not much of a detailed answer yet though.
I suppose the objective of the scenario for stalin would be to crush a capitalist future russia and mold it in his own way. |
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vitalsigns Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Prill, this is what you need to do. Submit your UK citizenship and take the russian one. I would encourage you to travel on a bicycle through all 11 time zones (watch for the potholes on the roads though). Then when you are 18, you have to marry a russian lady. After that you have to become a russian walrus.
By doing all these things you will become a good man. |
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Fire_Goddess Guest
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| vitalsigns wrote: | Hey Prill, this is what you need to do. Submit your UK citizenship and take the russian one. I would encourage you to travel on a bicycle through all 11 time zones (watch for the potholes on the roads though). Then when you are 18, you have to marry a russian lady. After that you have to become a russian walrus.
By doing all these things you will become a good man. |
Sounds Negative to me! A guy marrying at 18 before he even has proper job prospects, sounds like spousal abuse and drunkeness waiting to happen!  |
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vitalsigns Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Hello freaky doll!  |
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Fire_Goddess Guest
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| vitalsigns wrote: | Hello freaky doll!  |
Woohoo is that your new nic name for me? LOL  |
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tripchik Lounge Lizard
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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vitalsigns wrote:
| Quote: | | From what I understand the success of Stalin's army was driven more by patriotism of people than skills or sufficient eqiupment provision. |
Stalin's army was often driven by officers 'leading from the rear', with guns pointed at the backs of the infantry, in case anyone thought twice about going forward. |
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Prill Frequent Guest
Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Location: united kingdom
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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so then in the event of my scenario actually happening then the russian soldiers with soviet officers would turn against stalin and join putins army ?
Would their be any hard fighting In the event of stalin sending everthing he had in 1950 against putins 2006 russian army.
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Fire_Goddess Guest
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| tripchik wrote: | vitalsigns wrote:
| Quote: | | From what I understand the success of Stalin's army was driven more by patriotism of people than skills or sufficient eqiupment provision. |
Stalin's army was often driven by officers 'leading from the rear', with guns pointed at the backs of the infantry, in case anyone thought twice about going forward. |
Yeah you are right about that, russians had a very high death toll, due to the fact that they were forced into impossible situations, where if they went forward they would be shot and killed for sure by the germans, but if they stepped back they would be shot and killed by Stalins guys! To me thats a perfect example of a waste of human life, instead of planning properly they were just forced to charge into already chaotic scenes with a 90% chance of being killed right on the spot. |
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Fire_Goddess Guest
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Prill wrote: | | so then in the event of my scenario actually happening then the russian soldiers with soviet officers would turn against stalin and join putins army ? |
Are you by any chance one of those "fantasy game board players"? LOL |
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Prill Frequent Guest
Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Location: united kingdom
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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so then in the event of my scenario actually happening then the russian soldiers with soviet officers would turn against stalin and join putins army ?
Would their be any hard fighting In the event of stalin sending everthing he had in 1950 against putins 2006 russian army.
patriotism vs soviet patriotism ,lol |
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| All of stalins army would be shot in the back by stalins men for attempting to run over to putin, and some stray bullets would hit putins men, so they would be forced to open fire on everyone killing most of stalins men. Besides putins men would be armed with the best weapons, whereas stalin would only have period pieces! |
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