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vitalsigns · Lounge Wizard Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 2784

I lived in Tatarstan a while back. The muslims there, particularly in the past, were nominal muslims. I believe the conservative islam's influence there keeps getting strong, but still it will never be as conservative as it is in the arab countries. Muslims in Tatarstan are against intermarriage, but they will gladly bless their daughter if she marries some rich foreigner even if he's Catholic.

Wow, you are married to a tatar girl. That's pretty cool! What city was she from tripchick: Kazan, Nizhnekamsk, Nab. Chelny?

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tuller · Talk Show Host Joined: 24 Oct 2004 Posts: 238

I had to cough-up a years supply of panty hose to my extended sisters-in laws, nieces, and mother-in-law to pay for my wife's dowery ! Very Happy

It was an awsome experience at the wedding party ! Laughing

Tuller

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SPQR · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:55 am Post subject:

And let's not forget that classic pick-up line "Is that a ladder in your stocking or a stairway to heaven?" Laughing

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tripchik · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:20 pm Post subject:

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tripchik · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject:

vitalsigns wrote:

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cdnexpat · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:26 am Post subject:

Here are a few observations based on my little knowledge of this particular region of the globe:

During soviet times, religion was not banned altogether, but was ordered to be a personnal thing, with no public displays of faith. Churches and mosques were built small and in the quiet places of the cities.
Remember that all stans are muslim and that this makes up more than half of the population of the ex SU.
One of the problems we are seeing now is that these muslim countries are developping fundamentalist movements from within which aim at turning these secular countries into islamic states. Chechnya and Georgia are the best cases, but the same thing is heppening in Kyrgystan, and Uzbekistan.
It is important to understand that this process is only happening through infiltration. The funding for these uprisings has always been traced to Saudi money.
The recent crack downs in these two countries were ordered by their own muslim leaders. They are quite happy to remain secular states, and in no way favor this radicalization.
They are quite similar to Turkey, in that people there drink, smoke, etc
This was the main reason that the soviets had problems in Afghanistan. There was widespread fear that the soviet secular system would destroy muslim values, etc...
But it is evident everywhere that the soviets were doing a very good reconstruction work here. But this was a historic event that the muslim world opposed it, and for some strategic reason, the west jumped in this war. For the west, it was a bonus as they could become involved in a war against soviet forces, sell arms and turn a good profit.
I think that no one knew what would be the long term effects of this war.
It is starting to become evident now, and still to many politicians prefer to keep their eyes wide shut!
Please stay tuned for more...
Bob

Vic · Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:49 am Post subject:

This is just Zhirinovsky saying something. He always has to say/insult/beat up something once every couple months so people do not forget about him. But I am not against allowing it. It should be down to the republics to decide for themselves. Russia is a federation afterall and it is a multicultural nation where the second religion is Islam, which does allow polygamy. In the meantime, the Family laws, which are federal prohibit it. The obvious technical problem would be this, lets say you get married - twice, lets say in Chechnya (where it would be allowed) and move to Kaliningrad (almost no muslims there - probably will not be allowed) what would happen? Would your two marriages be recognized as official? Right now, immigrants coming to Russia from countries that officially allow polygamy must choose just one wife, we do not recognize the other marriages as official. It would be beaurocratic hell.
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CruisingRam · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject:

first- let me thank you for your fine forum, I just found it!

Interesting hijack of the original thread- but having been to a (at least half, if not more) "Islamic" city of Kazan (the Tartarish of course, consider themselves, "Moslem"- I spell it this way, because my in-laws spell it this way- quaint.

Islam has as many different poeple and sects and habits as Christianity, if not more. Go to Azerbijan and see all those beautiful "Muslim" women dancing as if they were in a nightclub in LA. Same with Moscow and St Petersburg.

My Mother-in-law's nieghbors in her flat were Muslim, and, in fact, I went over there several times for tea. This is a big "no no" in Sharia law- having a infidel, actually several, into the muslim home, in a middle eastern country.

Muslims in Russia are as different from Arab Muslims as Irish Catholics in Ireland are from Southern baptists in Texas!