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camarks
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always tried to use the debit card tied to my checking account at home, and it worked most everywhere. While Russian banks are not always affiliated with multiple processing companies, they are almost always affiliated with one that my bank will work with. It is a very good idea to get PINs for your credit cards as back-up. Also remember to notify your card issuers about your travel before your trip (transactions from Russia are often viewed with suspicion and can be denied).
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JosephZ
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One question on practicalities: Do the ATM machines in Russia (St. Petersburg specifically) show English instructions, or are they entirely in Russian?

A follow-up question on the issue of withdrawing American dollars from a Russian ATM machine - this may sound tedious: does the machine give you an option to choose whether you want to withdraw cash in American dollars or Rubles? Or do some of them always give cash in US dollars and some always in Rubles?

The reason I am asking about the possibility of getting green backs from a local ATM is that my language school accepts US dollars for tuition payment. My bank (Bank of America), on the other hand, now charges a 1% conversion fee on top of the $5 flat rate imposed on all withdrawals done overseas. So if I can avoid the conversion fee it would be great.
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vitalsigns
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JosephZ wrote:
One question on practicalities: Do the ATM machines in Russia (St. Petersburg specifically) show English instructions, or are they entirely in Russian?

In my case all them gave me an option of a language selection (Russian/English) in St. Pete.

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A follow-up question on the issue of withdrawing American dollars from a Russian ATM machine - this may sound tedious: does the machine give you an option to choose whether you want to withdraw cash in American dollars or Rubles? Or do some of them always give cash in US dollars and some always in Rubles?


Depending on a city you are in. Moscow, St. Pete, yes, most of them do. If it is a smaller bank it will probably give you RUR only.

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The reason I am asking about the possibility of getting green backs from a local ATM is that my language school accepts US dollars for tuition payment. My bank (Bank of America), on the other hand, now charges a 1% conversion fee on top of the $5 flat rate imposed on all withdrawals done overseas. So if I can avoid the conversion fee it would be great.


Green backs will be hard to withdraw. Smile
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JosephZ
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is interesting that you can withdraw American currency from a Russian ATM. I don't think a British, a Canadian, or an American ATM machine would give you any currency except the local national one.
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JosephZ
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vitalsigns, what do you mean by "green backs will be hard to withdraw"? I thought you said most ATMs machines allow you the choice of getting either Rubles or US dollars.
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vitalsigns
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JosephZ wrote:
Vitalsigns, what do you mean by "green backs will be hard to withdraw"? I thought you said most ATMs machines allow you the choice of getting either Rubles or US dollars.


I thought it should be spelled bucks, not backs.
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JosephZ
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see what you mean now. :D Well, American bills are actually nicknamed "greenbacks" because of their green color.
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vitalsigns
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JosephZ wrote:
I see what you mean now. Very Happy Well, American bills are actually nicknamed "greenbacks" because of their green color.


You should have no problem with greenbacks.
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camarks
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will be able to get dollars from many ATMs in the major cities, but I bet it will not save you from the conversion fee. I bet the transaction will still be presented to your bank in rubles. Also, check to see what the effective conversion rate is for the school, it may or may not be great. If there are some bills you know you will pay in dollars, you could just take that in cash.
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JosephZ
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you saying that if I withdraw US dollars/bills from a Russian ATM machine it may involve two currency exchanges - from US dollars into Russian Rubles and then back into US dollars?

Does anyone have experience getting American currency from a Russian ATM machine?
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overseas_expat
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you want to withdraw dollars from a Russian ATM machine? You'd just have to change them to rubles anyway to spend them. That's dumb.

And if anybody thinks they'd get a better deal bargaining with Russian vendors and offering to pay in dollars: think again. The dollar is sinking against the ruble (and the Euro and the pound sterling and probably the worthless Turkish lira as well....). Nobody in Russia wants dollars right now. You can't get rid of them.
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's true nobody wants dollars right now in Russia...unless they are free.
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JosephZ
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have my own reason to want to use US cash for certain purposes in Russia, and what it is doesn't concern you. If you know the answer to people's questions, great, by all means contribute with your knowledge. Otherwise, hold your peace. Your irrelevant comments merely derail the thread of discussion and prevent the questioner from getting the information he is looking for.
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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JosephZ wrote:
I have my own reason to want to use US cash for certain purposes in Russia, and what it is doesn't concern you. If you know the answer to people's questions, great, by all means contribute with your knowledge. Otherwise, hold your peace. Your irrelevant comments merely derail the thread of discussion and prevent the questioner from getting the information he is looking for.


I think you should chill out a little bit. I sense some unnecessary aggravation. You may want to try valium and other medicines - they do help. Petting you neighbor's cat may help calm your senses as well.

You got the answer to your question - you can purchase dollars anywhere in the center of the city, at one of many banks and exchange places. What else do you want to know?
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been mentioned before in other posts...only one way to truely find out about Russia and that's to go there and see for your self. Learn what is accepted and what is not. I used dollars there and rubles. But people are lear of the dollar because it is in decline. Personally now is the time to buy dollars as it will go up.
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