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ariba1615
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 Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:06 am Post subject: Younger Russian women attitude on marriage & pre-marital |
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I am dating a Russian woman and have several Russian woman friends.
I find it disturbing that there is a trend in Russia right now with younger woman either to post pone the marriage or not getting married at all. They don't see any incentive to get married because they don’t trust men and pre marital sex is so common.
Most of the women don’t like fact that Russian men have lot of choice about woman. Russian woman doesn't trust men. They prefer to stay unmarried instead of risking getting a divorce. Divorces are getting very common. Married men are going after younger women leaving their wives. Younger women are ok with having relationships with married men. What's going on with Russian society? Too much sexual freedom?
I saw statistics showing that almost 56% of Russians think that sex before marriage is OK. Compared to America 46% and India 2%.
Why is Russia more liberal than America in sex? It just doesn't make sense. About 10 to 20 years back, Russians are the most conservative people... premarital sex in a taboo...what happened to Russia in the last 10 years? Russians are paying heavy price for the freedom.
May be it's good to go back to Communism. At least, the society will not be morally corrupt.
I think this is the biggest reason why the Russia's population is decreasing.
The society needs to step in to change this attitude of free sex. The institution of Marriage has great benefits especially for children. |
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ram
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You are correct in your assessment. Russia has been recently as much a victim of the degenerate liberal mass media and propaganda, as the West.
All the human capital built up for centuries is being destroyed with the help of so called "liberties" and "democracy." Which is in reality only a way for mutlinational corporations to induce people to spend more on their goods. You would not have people chasing latest fashion clothers and car models, if they were occupied with raising children. Instead, Russia, just as America is told to import immigrant labour to fill the population decline.
How nice. First the liberals destroy the fabric of a society, population decline follows, then they claim, "Oh, locals won't do all the hard jobs, that immigrants do. Let's bring immgrant labour."
They do it only to countries populated by Europeans. You don't see them go into Africa or Arab countries and open centers of Planned Parenthood there, which are just fertility reduction clinics.
Liberalism is far more dangerous and has eliminated more people than even communism and nazism combined. |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Leave planned parenthood out of it Ram! Do not pretend people were so clean and moral before, they did alot of stuff behind closed doors and didnt air out their dirty laundry. Now its not a big deal and thats not a partisan issue either. The breakdown of the family unit has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with disfunction caused from years of crap treatment and abuse. People can only be held down for so long before they rebel in an extreme way. Thats life! |
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MrSpice
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| ram wrote: |
They do it only to countries populated by Europeans. You don't see them go into Africa or Arab countries and open centers of Planned Parenthood there, which are just fertility reduction clinics.
Liberalism is far more dangerous and has eliminated more people than even communism and nazism combined. |
If you can even equate liberalism of any kind with communism, you clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Democracy, freedom or choice and speech are good things. It's better to have large multinational corporations competing to provide services and goods to people than having an authocratic government that can not be chosen or controlled by its people. I don't see any problem with Planned Parenthood - the more choices people have the better. After all, its people's choice what to do with their birth control or their bodies. If it's liberal - so be it. That's the way it is in all democratic and developed countries. Except for some whacked out states like South Dacota and South Carolina, no large state will ever make abortion illegal and that's a good thing. |
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ram
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If you can even equate liberalism of any kind with communism, you clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Democracy, freedom or choice and speech are good things. |
Of course. Then liberals should stop denying all these goods things to the White majority in the west.
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It's better to have large multinational corporations competing to provide services and goods to people than having an authocratic government that can not be chosen or controlled by its people. |
Your government is chosen by multinational corporations, not by you. Get a clue.
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I don't see any problem with Planned Parenthood - the more choices people have the better. After all, its people's choice what to do with their birth control or their bodies.
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Then liberals need to start putting up PP clinics all over the Tthird world, to reduce their birthrates so they stop exporting their maniacal excess population to White countries.
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That's the way it is in all democratic and developed countries. Except for some whacked out states like South Dacota and South Carolina, no large state will ever make abortion illegal and that's a good thing. |
Which countries exactly do you have in mind as "democratic"? |
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JustinCase
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Ram you have no clue what so ever do you. They don't need PP in Africa, with their mortalitly rate and the way they are busy killing themselves off there aren't that many of your so called manical excess population to ship anywhere.
I love so called Conservatives who are so afraid of the Liberal left and any ideas of freedom and people's rights. They spout they're hate and and try to make everyone afraid so they can steal more and more freedom from people to make it easier to control them. Like it or not we live in a real world and we have to try and find common ground and not try to tear people further apart.
If you don't have a realistic answer to the problem shut your face. For good or bad abortion is legal and I would hate to see it go back to the days of doing them on kitchen tables but people who didn't know what they are doing. How many women died during botched abortions back in the bad old days. Who are you to tell a woman what she can or can't do with her body. How many childern have you adopted because the mother couldn't support or didn't want the child? Until you have, again shut up and keep your righteous indignation to yourself.
You want to solve the worlds problems, educate the people, help them start industries that pay a wage they can live on, help them grow enough food to feed themselves. Quit talking and do something. Teach your childern how to get long with others not teach to fear people from other countries. People are the same the world over, all they want is to be happy. It's governments and religion that create all the problems. I am a deeply spiritual person but not a religious one, I know there is more than 1 way out there.
Sorry to ramble on but it just stuck a cord with me I couldn't control.
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vitalsigns
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I love so called Conservatives who are so afraid of the Liberal left and any ideas of freedom and people's rights.
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Ha! Liberal idea of freedom: You watch one liberal media owned channel and you read one paper that they print. Man, I feel free.
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Oh, Russia, so illogical. So wild. |
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Fire_Goddess
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| vitalsigns wrote: | | Ha! Liberal idea of freedom: You watch one liberal media owned channel and you read one paper that they print. Man, I feel free. |
Perhaps you would offer a list of these liberal stations. I think PBS is as liberal as you can get, and the government has tried to force them to offer conservative drivel to "keep it fair". I dont know of any other network that is liberal Vitalsigns, and the same is said in the political forums I frequent. WHERE ARE THESE LIBERAL STATIONS? I think you are just mistaking two faced immoral "conservatives", for liberals.  |
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surfguy
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| CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, BRAVO, BBC...all of these are extremely liberal |
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vitalsigns
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| Even some FOX channels. |
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Rick
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| What on earth does liberalism (in the american meaning) as a political movement have to do with pre-marital sex? Or is every subject here a pretext for some to hijack other people's topics and turn them into politics? |
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Fire_Goddess
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| surfguy wrote: | | CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, BRAVO, BBC...all of these are extremely liberal |
The stations youve listed with the exception to the BBC are not at all liberal. I didnt even consider the BBC considering they are british. |
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surfguy
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| Well maybe that's good...because if I see them as being liberal/leftest and you see them as not being that-then where do they lay. If you were to have said they were conservative and to the right-perhaps we could have met on them being some where in the middle. Personally I find them to be very liberal. |
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littleplanet
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| Rick wrote: | | What on earth does liberalism (in the american meaning) as a political movement have to do with pre-marital sex? Or is every subject here a pretext for some to hijack other people's topics and turn them into politics? |
Ha!
I completely agree with your sentiments, Rick!
(seems to be a common forum problem...)
An interesting topic, nonetheless - seeing as I'm about to visit Russia for some of the, ah, "topic".....(and I do NOT mean politics!!!!!) |
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darthvader
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:06 am Post subject: Re: Younger Russian women attitude on marriage & pre-mar |
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| ariba1615 wrote: | | ......I saw statistics showing that almost 56% of Russians think that sex before marriage is OK. Compared to America 46% and India 2%........ |
Yes, interesting. One would think that other Western nations (eg. Western Europe) have even more liberal attitude regarding this matter - maybe 60-70%.
I wonder too what the Russian divorce rate statistics are? Higher than the say 50+% in the Western world? |
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