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Leandro
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 Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: Searching a job in Russia |
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Hi all,
I am a 25 year old Swiss-Brazilian, (portuguese native speaker). I graduated in Electronic Engineering and now I live and work in Germany.
Last summer I was in Saint Petersburg learning russian for one month and really enjoyed a lot. I keep learning russian here in Germany, and I decided to go back to Russia to improve my knowledge in Russian and to be in touch with the russian folk that is so amazing for me. Believe me or not, there are a lot of things in Russia similar to Brazil that makes me like this country even more.
I have already tried all possible ways that I know: sent emails to Headhunters companies, to Russian and western companies in the telecommunication area and even contact centers where I could teach portuguese. But I almost didn't get any reply.
I don't have big expectations about wage, although I work in Germany now, I grew up in Brazil which has in my opinion a similar economic situation as Russia. Just wanted enough money for rent+food.
So I would appreciate any tips you can give me.
Cheers,
Leo |
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Generation-P
WayToRussified
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Posts: 316
Location: SHE WENT TO BARCELONA!
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: Searching a job in Russia |
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| Leandro wrote: | Hi all,
I am a 25 year old Swiss-Brazilian, (portuguese native speaker). I graduated in Electronic Engineering and now I live and work in Germany.
Last summer I was in Saint Petersburg learning russian for one month and really enjoyed a lot. I keep learning russian here in Germany, and I decided to go back to Russia to improve my knowledge in Russian and to be in touch with the russian folk that is so amazing for me. Believe me or not, there are a lot of things in Russia similar to Brazil that makes me like this country even more.
I have already tried all possible ways that I know: sent emails to Headhunters companies, to Russian and western companies in the telecommunication area and even contact centers where I could teach portuguese. But I almost didn't get any reply.
I don't have big expectations about wage, although I work in Germany now, I grew up in Brazil which has in my opinion a similar economic situation as Russia. Just wanted enough money for rent+food.
So I would appreciate any tips you can give me.
Cheers,
Leo |
Have you tried consulates/ embassies in Russia? I suppose you could try to get a job in consulate/ embassy of Switzerland in Russia. Or the one of Brazil, maybe even the embassy of Portugal could offer you a job, since you speak portugese. I don't know what kind of standards they have, usually basic knowledge of Russian is required, so if you can read cyrillic and know some basic Russian, you should be able to get a job. Depending your age you could try to find out about different scholarshipsystems/ work abroad-programs that Switzerland or Germany can offer you. If you speak German, why don't you apply vacations to teach German? I'd suppose that quite many language centers offer German.
Push a little more those companies from which you applied for job. If they don't respond you at all in 2 months then it is time to write them again. |
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Leandro
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Joined: 11 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: Re: Searching a job in Russia |
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Hi,
first of all thanks for the fast reply, helped to improve my mood 
| Generation P wrote: |
Have you tried consulates/ embassies in Russia? I suppose you could try to get a job in consulate/ embassy of Switzerland in Russia. Or the one of Brazil, maybe even the embassy of Portugal could offer you a job, since you speak portugese. I don't know what kind of standards they have, usually basic knowledge of Russian is required, so if you can read cyrillic and know some basic Russian, you should be able to get a job. |
Good idea! In the beginning I have tried some consulates, but not all of them. I will contact another possibilities
| Generation P wrote: |
Depending your age you could try to find out about different scholarshipsystems/ work abroad-programs that Switzerland or Germany can offer you. |
As I said, I am 25. I tried to look for such scholarships, but all of them are for students, and I graduated already.
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If you speak German, why don't you apply vacations to teach German? I'd suppose that quite many language centers offer German. |
I speak and write in German very good, but it's not "100% perfect", and when I do something I like to do it well done. But still being a possibility, maybe for conversation classes.
| Generation P wrote: |
Push a little more those companies from which you applied for job. If they don't respond you at all in 2 months then it is time to write them again. |
I have a feeling that apply for a job trough email doesn't really work in Russia, at least for foreigners  . Can you say something about this? Or how would be the best way to apply for it? |
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Generation-P
WayToRussified
Joined: 22 May 2006
Posts: 316
Location: SHE WENT TO BARCELONA!
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:19 am Post subject: Re: Searching a job in Russia |
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| Leandro wrote: |
As I said, I am 25. I tried to look for such scholarships, but all of them are for students, and I graduated already.
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Well, how about post-graduate possibilities then? Usually for most of the work abroad-programs age limit is 26. Do some research on European Union, they're opaying money to some organizations that have connections with Russia. If you feel like it, you could try the options for voluntary work in Russia. I think that if you do the best possible search you'll find plenty of options to do voluntary work Russia. Besides, not all voluntary work is to work with orpheans, one girl from my University went to do voluntary work in Art Museum in Kiev.
| Leandro wrote: |
I have a feeling that apply for a job trough email doesn't really work in Russia, at least for foreigners . Can you say something about this? Or how would be the best way to apply for it? |
I wouldn't count on e-mail. Maybe sending letter or faxing your application are better options. Or maybe both to be 100% sure. And anyway, if they don't answer for your applications in a month, then call them, if you can, send e-mails or fax. |
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mister_wizzz
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You have swiss citizenship, speak fluent German, graduated from an engeenering school so why you didn't get a job in switzerland ?
One of my friend (french) who did the same kind of studies got 100 000 Eur/year job there, he is non German speaking and speak a "broken" english.
Well, if you really want to live in Russia, better get a very well paid job in Switzerland, get some funds and after go to Russia and live/search for a job there using them.
One advice : try to get a job in the electronic/IT fields better than a language teaching one, technology evolution is going very fast, and you can be quicly "out of date". |
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Generation-P
WayToRussified
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| mister_wizzz wrote: | You have swiss citizenship, speak fluent German, graduated from an engeenering school so why you didn't get a job in switzerland ?
One of my friend (french) who did the same kind of studies got 100 000 Eur/year job there, he is non German speaking and speak a "broken" english.
Well, if you really want to live in Russia, better get a very well paid job in Switzerland, get some funds and after go to Russia and live/search for a job there using them.
One advice : try to get a job in the electronic/IT fields better than a language teaching one, technology evolution is going very fast, and you can be quicly "out of date". |
I support this one! It is definetely easier to get work in Russia if you are there. Besides, then you have more options from which to choose. |
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Tantuss
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Did you know that you are facing an almost impossible quest?
I was looking for something like that too. I am graduated as bachelor in the Netherlands and now I am getting my master degree in the Embedded Systems, but for my master degree I wanted to graduate in St. Petersburg.
So that is why I know what you are going through.
Anyway, the reason why it is so difficult is because technical people are not the people they need in Russia. The level of education in the technical area is very good and foreigners are just too expensive.
If that was all, you would just accept the lower salary. But that isn’t all, the company you are going to work for has to do lots of paper work to get somebody from outside of Russia. Next you have to get a working permit, which takes about 3 months and costs 300 euro. The problem is the paper work the company has to do to get you, because you might be a good worker, but there are so many Russians that might be as good as you.
And I guess it is very normal for Russians not to answer emails, I did also send lots of them and I receive on 2 of them an answer.
The good news for me is, I found a Dutch company who does like my ideas and supports me in it and offered me a graduation place within the company (www.lizatec.ru or www.lizatec.nl if you are able to read Dutch) in St. Petersburg.
If you need some more info about the rules you can contact me.. |
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