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yorbcbud
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SerSo
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 Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: Post Putin Russia |
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My first post here.
I am not inclined to make prophecies. Only trying to share my personal feeling. I am under the impression that there will be no official "successor" in 2008 elections. Instead it will be a choice between two main candidates both very loyal to the current regime. Also there can be other candidates (communist, nationalist, pro-western, rich people barely seeking publicity etc.) with no real chance to win. A second ballot is likely to take place. At first sight such tactics may sound illogical because it splits votes instead of consolidating the electorate however it seems that the present Russian administration can afford it now.
This my impression has been recently supported by my former fellow student who is now a university professor of history and a staunch pro-Putin activist. According to him Putin & Co. promote a concept of two loyal parties competing with each other, a political system where all types of extremes would fall into oblivion and no one would contest the principal values. This is what is called the "managed democracy". |
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yorbcbud
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: Post Putin Russia |
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| SerSo wrote: | My first post here.
I am not inclined to make prophecies. Only trying to share my personal feeling. I am under the impression that there will be no official "successor" in 2008 elections. Instead it will be a choice between two main candidates both very loyal to the current regime. Also there can be other candidates (communist, nationalist, pro-western, rich people barely seeking publicity etc.) with no real chance to win. A second ballot is likely to take place. At first sight such tactics may sound illogical because it splits votes instead of consolidating the electorate however it seems that the present Russian administration can afford it now.
This my impression has been recently supported by my former fellow student who is now a university professor of history and a staunch pro-Putin activist. According to him Putin & Co. promote a concept of two loyal parties competing with each other, a political system where all types of extremes would fall into oblivion and no one would contest the principal values. This is what is called the "managed democracy". |
Well, it was the woman that I found interesting. You don't hear much about women bothering with those things. At least not here, anyway. |
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SerSo
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Post Putin Russia |
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Well, it was the woman that I found interesting. You don't hear much about women bothering with those things. At least not here, anyway. |
About whom are you talking? Hopefully not me  Or Mrs.Matviyenko who was mentioned in the article? I do not find her interesting at all. |
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yorbcbud
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: Post Putin Russia |
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| SerSo wrote: |
About whom are you talking? Hopefully not me Or Mrs.Matviyenko who was mentioned in the article? I do not find her interesting at all. |
No, not you. The woman in the article. And I didn't find her particularly interesting. It was more about the fact that she was even pursuing a political career. It doesn't seem to happen much there, does it? |
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Crabman
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: Post Putin Russia |
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| yorbcbud wrote: | | Well, it was the woman that I found interesting. |
| yorbcbud wrote: | | ... The woman in the article. And I didn't find her particularly interesting... |
Still thinking as clearly as ever, eh? |
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Mogsfan
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So what do Russians think now? Are they still as ignorant as Americans and other citizens? Why even vote especially for Putin? Unless, they enjoy living in another (Russian) police state.
Maybe they want to emulate the Bu$h Police State? |
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MrSpice
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| Mogsfan wrote: | So what do Russians think now? Are they still as ignorant as Americans and other citizens? Why even vote especially for Putin? Unless, they enjoy living in another (Russian) police state.
Maybe they want to emulate the Bu$h Police State? |
I think you won't find too many people as ignorant as you are. If you are comparing the US and it's "police state" with Russia, you must be brain-dead. |
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Heretical-Angel
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| Mogsfan wrote: | So what do Russians think now? Are they still as ignorant as Americans and other citizens? Why even vote especially for Putin? Unless, they enjoy living in another (Russian) police state.
Maybe they want to emulate the Bu$h Police State? |
Comparing American social state and Russian social state is a bit of a stretch don't you think??  |
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jo-jo-7
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| Mogsfan wrote: | So what do Russians think now? Are they still as ignorant as Americans and other citizens? Why even vote especially for Putin? Unless, they enjoy living in another (Russian) police state.
Maybe they want to emulate the Bu$h Police State? |
What is your stupid babble? blah,blah,blah,blah....get a life!...   |
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surfguy
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| Mogsfan wrote: | So what do Russians think now? Are they still as ignorant as Americans and other citizens? Why even vote especially for Putin? Unless, they enjoy living in another (Russian) police state.
Maybe they want to emulate the Bu$h Police State? |
yeaah...whatever...you are so ignorant |
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vitalsigns
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| Mogsfan was a true friend of Dr. Fauste. Funny he came back. I think in his case it's the beer that does the talking. |
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jo-jo-7
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| vitalsigns wrote: | | Mogsfan was a true friend of Dr. Fauste. Funny he came back. I think in his case it's the beer that does the talking. |
Yeah..it is called DUUUMB liquid courage... |
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vitalsigns
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| jo jo 7 wrote: | | vitalsigns wrote: | | Mogsfan was a true friend of Dr. Fauste. Funny he came back. I think in his case it's the beer that does the talking. |
Yeah..it is called DUUUMB liquid courage... |
Mogsfan is probably doing the chatting between airports. He's the type that travels the world to save it. A flower child. Or a baby boomer. |
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gomer
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: Post Putin Russia |
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| SerSo wrote: | | a concept of two loyal parties competing with each other, a political system where all types of extremes would fall into oblivion and no one would contest the principal values. |
Sounds like the Democrats and Republicans in the U.S. The moderates get elected and the extreme left and right are looking in the White House windows, wanting to change the drapes. |
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