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| Do you support the War on Terror? |
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Miami WayToRussified
Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 332
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| surfguy wrote: | | Quote: | | One of the stupidest things ive ever heard Bush say was that terrorists hated us for our way of life. |
Very naive Fire G. They have publicly stated they hate you because of who you are...an infidel...has nothing to do with Politics. |
I agree with Fire Goddess. To listen to Bush Administration rhetoric and Faux News over the last six years, one would think the "evildoers" have it in for us because we have baseball, Wal-Mart, mom, and apple pie. When in fact it has a lot more to do with our meddling in their country's internal business, and imperialistic actions & policies throughout the Middle East over the years. We have no business being over there. Never have, never will. |
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surfguy Lounge Wizard
Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6996
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| well bush is gone next year...and this nonsense won't end...don't forget it started long ago |
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Fire_Goddess Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| Markus wrote: |
I guess you were born yesterday. Sorry I can't disagree with you more. |
It is YOU who does not know what is going on in the world, and it is YOU who does no utilize multiple sources for your information. Whether you agree or disagree with me, its not important, but do not attempt to argue because you have shown up with a knife, at a gun fight. |
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Fire_Goddess Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| surfguy wrote: |
Very naive Fire G. They have publicly stated they hate you because of who you are...an infidel...has nothing to do with Politics. |
What forced them to state their hatred for Americans and anyone against Islam???? It definitely wasnt me! It was my government and their distorted foreign policy, which really has nothing to do with MY way of life. Dont get me wrong here, I am not sitting here trying to say that we should all feel sorry for people who terrorize others, all I am saying is that these people didnt wake up one morning and play "eenie meenie mynee moe", as to which nation they were going to hate. I am not for any kind of terrorism, I am for the "live and let live", policy. |
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard
Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4919 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| Miami wrote: |
I agree with Fire Goddess. To listen to Bush Administration rhetoric and Faux News over the last six years, one would think the "evildoers" have it in for us because we have baseball, Wal-Mart, mom, and apple pie. When in fact it has a lot more to do with our meddling in their country's internal business, and imperialistic actions & policies throughout the Middle East over the years. We have no business being over there. Never have, never will. |
Ah. It's refreshing to see another smart American. Wouldn't the world be a wonderful place, if everyone were to simply tend to their own affairs. It comes naturally in my country. And if some think we are wimps because of that, so be it. A wimp I shall be.  |
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kolobed Lounge Lizard
Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 151 Location: merkaba
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: |
What forced them to state their hatred for Americans and anyone against Islam???? |
what made the people of germany "state" their hatred for the jews? declining (well, virtually nonexistent in this case) economic and social structure, desperation, endless propaganda. throw in some social and political underdevelopment, historic struggles, fear of isolation, find yourself a scape goat and you've got an islamic fundamentalist terrorist extremist... whatever.. basically an arab with a rocket launcher. |
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard
Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4919 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| kolobed wrote: | | Fire_Goddess wrote: |
What forced them to state their hatred for Americans and anyone against Islam???? |
what made the people of germany "state" their hatred for the jews? declining (well, virtually nonexistent in this case) economic and social structure, desperation, endless propaganda. throw in some social and political underdevelopment, historic struggles, fear of isolation, find yourself a scape goat and you've got an islamic fundamentalist terrorist extremist... whatever.. basically an arab with a rocket launcher. |
Nonsense. Extremists hate America, because the American government can't mind it's own business, period. |
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kolobed Lounge Lizard
Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 151 Location: merkaba
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Nonsense. Extremists hate America, because the American government can't mind it's own business, period. |
umm... ok, what about israel, spain, france, england, canada and pretty much the rest of the western world? dude, if you're not an arab, you're an infidel. and you must die. to make room for smelly muslim babies. period. |
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard
Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4919 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| kolobed wrote: | | yorbcbud wrote: |
Nonsense. Extremists hate America, because the American government can't mind it's own business, period. |
umm... ok, what about israel, spain, france, england, canada and pretty much the rest of the western world? dude, if you're not an arab, you're an infidel. and you must die. to make room for smelly muslim babies. period. |
Ick, you are disgusting. No wonder Muslims hate you. They don't hate me. Save your garbage for fools like Surfguy, and Vitali. Spread your hate somewhere else. It's not required on this forum. It's crap like that that creates terrorists.
All those countries, minus Canada participate in stupid, illegal wars. We are in Afghanistan battling the Taliban because the Afghan people want us there. |
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kolobed Lounge Lizard
Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 151 Location: merkaba
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| so... umm, if the afghan people want "you" there, why are "you" battling them? |
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard
Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4919 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| kolobed wrote: | | so... umm, if the afghan people want "you" there, why are "you" battling them? |
What the hell are you talking about? Who's battling the Afghan people? The Taleban started out as Afghans trained in Pakistan. They have little support from the Afghan people. They are most certainly not the "voice" of Afghanistan. At one time they were popular. The Afghan people have had enough of their human rights abuses, and they want them out. |
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Fire_Goddess Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:13 am Post subject: |
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umm... ok, what about israel, spain, france, england, canada and pretty much the rest of the western world? dude, if you're not an arab, you're an infidel. and you must die. to make room for smelly muslim babies. period. |
You are obviously a bigot. You have no idea whats going on so you make crap comments about "smelly" muslim babies. So now what muslims are sub-human? Then you want to ask why Muslims cant stand the west! If you had made the same statement about a jewish baby everyones reaction would be different. Double standard.  |
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Fire_Goddess Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:15 am Post subject: |
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What the hell are you talking about? Who's battling the Afghan people? The Taleban started out as Afghans trained in Pakistan. They have little support from the Afghan people. They are most certainly not the "voice" of Afghanistan. At one time they were popular. The Afghan people have had enough of their human rights abuses, and they want them out. |
This guy (kolobed) seems like a hyped out bigot, not worth arguing with.  |
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard
Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4919 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: | | yorbcbud wrote: |
What the hell are you talking about? Who's battling the Afghan people? The Taleban started out as Afghans trained in Pakistan. They have little support from the Afghan people. They are most certainly not the "voice" of Afghanistan. At one time they were popular. The Afghan people have had enough of their human rights abuses, and they want them out. |
This guy (kolobed) seems like a hyped out bigot, not worth arguing with.  |
Just another skinny little Pavel from Moscow.  |
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mister_wizzz VIP
Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 559
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Let's talk about a small and peaceful European country : Danemark...
Last year a Danish newspaper (Jyllands-Posten) published some Muhammad caricatures to denounce the bad sides of Islam (and not Islam in itself).
I saw by myself those caricatures and most are funny and absolutly not degrading (not like a caricature I saw in A spanish magazine where you can see a caricature of Mary doing a blow job to Jesus).
The result : death threats on journalists, enormous demonstrations of hate against Danemark in ALL muslim countries, attacks of Danish ambassies, Danish products boycott...
All this mess for some caricatures ?
Now what happened in those Muslim countries after Islamists bombings who killed thousands of innocent people in US, Spain, UK, France ?
NOTHING. |
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