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kolobed
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Joined: 25 May 2007
Posts: 151
Location: merkaba
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Jews are not persecuted in my country. But this is Canada, the most racially tolerant nation on the planet. We will not skinheads, and Neo nazi lowlifes. I don't know where you would ever have gotten the idea that I had any sort of animosity toward any race or religion.
Yes I acknowledge the totally irrational Arab hatred of Jews. It just doesn't make any sense to me at all. But not ALL Arabs hate Jews. Jews live in Palestine and vice versa. We need to shut down the extremists, and not give them any chance to voice their hatred, but not with violence. With knowledge, understanding, and tolerance. Big dream huh? |
oh, i know that jews aren't persecuted in canada... or in the US. obviously, i'm sure there are cases here and there, but it's not worth mentioning.
and yes... huuuuuge dream. unfortunately, too idealistic for my taste. i don't believe in diplomacy when it comes to dealing with extremists.... i don't believe in trying to talk peace with people who are ready to blow themselves up in a crowd with women and children. there is no rationality in that. it's like if someone is robbing you, and you are trying to explain to them why they shouldn't rob you. it just doesn't work.
i think that we have found the source of our differences and disagreements. |
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surfguy
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Joined: 13 Apr 2006
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: | | surfguy wrote: |
rounded up and killed...do you mean like genecide or individuals who commited crimes?
post something to prove this |
It doesnt matter, the punishment should fit the crime. You hate Arabs, so nothing I post will make a difference to you, in your mind every Arab is a Muslim, and every Muslim is a terrorist. I dont subscribe to that ignorance, so that puts you on an opposing side. |
not true at all...I hate the extremist...of anywhere. Have quite a few muslim and arab friends...people are basically good everywhere...politics and religion and greed make for an ugly individual and nation |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| yorbcbud wrote: |
Jews are not persecuted in my country. But this is Canada, the most racially tolerant nation on the planet. We will not tolerate skinheads, and Neo nazi lowlifes. I don't know where you would ever have gotten the idea that I had any sort of animosity toward any race or religion.
Yes I acknowledge the totally irrational Arab hatred of Jews. It just doesn't make any sense to me at all. But not ALL Arabs hate Jews. Jews live in Palestine and vice versa. We need to shut down the extremists, and not give them any chance to voice their hatred, but not with violence. With knowledge, understanding, and tolerance. Big dream huh? |
I hate those neo Nazi types infact one threatened to kill me because I informed him of what a hypocrite he was and then informed him that he wasnt really white. He went flying into a rage and made all kinds of claims about what he was gonna do to me and how I was gonna pay yada yada yada. I dont like people who hate for no damn reason, most of those douche bags have never even come in contact with a jew. I never tolerate anyones anti jew talk either, because alot of it is based on pure bullshit and other out of control conspiracies, you would be surprised with what people come up with.  |
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surfguy
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Joined: 13 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| yorbcbud wrote: | | surfguy wrote: |
BC all you do is name call...site facts and evidence or shut your ooozing hatchet wound |
Thanks for the example of name calling. It cleared everything up for me. |
that is not name calling |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| surfguy wrote: |
not true at all...I hate the extremist...of anywhere. Have quite a few muslim and arab friends...people are basically good everywhere...politics and religion and greed make for an ugly individual and nation |
I wonder how, have you expressed to them, the same things you've expressed here? |
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kolobed
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Joined: 25 May 2007
Posts: 151
Location: merkaba
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: |
People dislike any group that cloisters itself off from the rest of the population and then only seems to want to help one another. I believe these groups are generally labeled Cults, or Fundamentalists. Then people who actually try to be nice towards Jews, get an attitude because the Jewish person thinks all none jews are scummy gentiles who are just out to get them, and who can not be trusted. Doesnt seem like a group the vast majority of people would want to be friends with, and it makes it all the more likely for people to unite against such a group. This goes for any group who behaves the same way. |
woooooow. we're getting down 'n deeerty here. so then... let me understand this correctly... what you are saying is that jews have been known to separate themselves from the rest of a population, wherever it might be, much like a cult. so this justifies the hatred against the jews? |
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surfguy
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: | | yorbcbud wrote: |
Jews are not persecuted in my country. But this is Canada, the most racially tolerant nation on the planet. We will not tolerate skinheads, and Neo nazi lowlifes. I don't know where you would ever have gotten the idea that I had any sort of animosity toward any race or religion.
Yes I acknowledge the totally irrational Arab hatred of Jews. It just doesn't make any sense to me at all. But not ALL Arabs hate Jews. Jews live in Palestine and vice versa. We need to shut down the extremists, and not give them any chance to voice their hatred, but not with violence. With knowledge, understanding, and tolerance. Big dream huh? |
I hate those neo Nazi types infact one threatened to kill me because I informed him of what a hypocrite he was and then informed him that he wasnt really white. He went flying into a rage and made all kinds of claims about what he was gonna do to me and how I was gonna pay yada yada yada. I dont like people who hate for no damn reason, most of those douche bags have never even come in contact with a jew. I never tolerate anyones anti jew talk either, because alot of it is based on pure bullshit and other out of control conspiracies, you would be surprised with what people come up with. |
yes true...Jews have done a lot of ill in the world...lord knows we all have...The story of the Merchant of Venice is a good one. BC is one of the most intolerant people here...he honestly can't handle a person with an opposing view. Canada has had a lot of problems in the past |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| kolobed wrote: |
woooooow. we're getting down 'n deeerty here. so then... let me understand this correctly... what you are saying is that jews have been known to separate themselves from the rest of a population, wherever it might be, much like a cult. so this justifies the hatred against the jews? |
No, it justifies the way people are easily lead against such groups. You mentioned Hitler. |
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yorbcbud
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Joined: 17 Feb 2006
Posts: 4919
Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: | | surfguy wrote: |
not true at all...I hate the extremist...of anywhere. Have quite a few muslim and arab friends...people are basically good everywhere...politics and religion and greed make for an ugly individual and nation |
I wonder how, have you expressed to them, the same things you've expressed here? |
Kinda doubt that. He's such a hypocrite, they would strangle him with a turban. |
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kolobed
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Joined: 25 May 2007
Posts: 151
Location: merkaba
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: | | kolobed wrote: |
woooooow. we're getting down 'n deeerty here. so then... let me understand this correctly... what you are saying is that jews have been known to separate themselves from the rest of a population, wherever it might be, much like a cult. so this justifies the hatred against the jews? |
No, it justifies the way people are easily lead against such groups. You mentioned Hitler. |
so then you do believe that jews separate themselves from other groups... right? in which way exactly? i'm talking diaspora... |
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yorbcbud
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Joined: 17 Feb 2006
Posts: 4919
Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| surfguy wrote: | | Fire_Goddess wrote: | | yorbcbud wrote: |
Jews are not persecuted in my country. But this is Canada, the most racially tolerant nation on the planet. We will not tolerate skinheads, and Neo nazi lowlifes. I don't know where you would ever have gotten the idea that I had any sort of animosity toward any race or religion.
Yes I acknowledge the totally irrational Arab hatred of Jews. It just doesn't make any sense to me at all. But not ALL Arabs hate Jews. Jews live in Palestine and vice versa. We need to shut down the extremists, and not give them any chance to voice their hatred, but not with violence. With knowledge, understanding, and tolerance. Big dream huh? |
I hate those neo Nazi types infact one threatened to kill me because I informed him of what a hypocrite he was and then informed him that he wasnt really white. He went flying into a rage and made all kinds of claims about what he was gonna do to me and how I was gonna pay yada yada yada. I dont like people who hate for no damn reason, most of those douche bags have never even come in contact with a jew. I never tolerate anyones anti jew talk either, because alot of it is based on pure bullshit and other out of control conspiracies, you would be surprised with what people come up with. |
yes true...Jews have done a lot of ill in the world...lord knows we all have...The story of the Merchant of Venice is a good one. BC is one of the most intolerant people here...he honestly can't handle a person with an opposing view. Canada has had a lot of problems in the past |
Hmm. You are digging that hole real deep aren't you. I'm just tired of reading your crap. I'm reading and responding to Kolobed's posts. Yet another of your lies. Tsk Tsk. Shame on you little boy. Notice how everyone here, except you fights their own fights without dragging other people into them? |
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yorbcbud
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Joined: 17 Feb 2006
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Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| kolobed wrote: | | Fire_Goddess wrote: | | kolobed wrote: |
woooooow. we're getting down 'n deeerty here. so then... let me understand this correctly... what you are saying is that jews have been known to separate themselves from the rest of a population, wherever it might be, much like a cult. so this justifies the hatred against the jews? |
No, it justifies the way people are easily lead against such groups. You mentioned Hitler. |
so then you do believe that jews separate themselves from other groups... right? in which way exactly? i'm talking diaspora... |
Can't really blame them, can you? If you are persecuted for decades, you'd tend to not want to trust others wouldn't you? |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| kolobed wrote: |
so then you do believe that jews separate themselves from other groups... right? in which way exactly? i'm talking diaspora... |
In a way that says "we are not on the same team". For instance I dont believe its right to hold American citizenship, and then have an allegiance to Israel, to me thats a traitor, because your allegiance belongs to the country you were born in which gave you your opportunities, and unless you renounce your citizenship, you have no business pledging allegiance to a foreign nation. Also by making the statement you did about having a country where jews can escape another holocaust situation, shows that you are among the group of jews who distrusts gentiles, and believes we are all just waiting to persecute a jew. Then I have to wonder how every jew in the world is supposed to be able to move to Israel when its obvious there will be no room. |
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yorbcbud
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Joined: 17 Feb 2006
Posts: 4919
Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада
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| surfguy wrote: | | yorbcbud wrote: | | surfguy wrote: |
BC all you do is name call...site facts and evidence or shut your ooozing hatchet wound |
Thanks for the example of name calling. It cleared everything up for me. |
that is not name calling |
Of course not. You never resort to name calling. |
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RusskiCanadian23
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Joined: 27 Mar 2007
Posts: 1107
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada/Ванкувер, Британская Колумбия, Канада
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| kolobed wrote: | | RusskiCanadian23 wrote: |
True. In fact, I think that to keep the balance in the region, if Israel gets to have nukes, so should Iran. In fact that is what, I think, Russia is working to accomplish. |
wow... are you totally fucking stupid? you seriously think that iran having nukes is a good idea? it's like giving ted kaczynski a whole lotta of tnt and saying... "here, man... go crazy..." fucking moron. i can't believe someone would actually think that. |
Then explain to me why, in almost every war it fought in the Middle East, well, it pretty much was EVERY WAR fought in the Middle East, your precious Israel was the AGGRESSOR? That is why I left Israel BTW. I realised there would never be piece there. I mean, Israel even bombed Iraq! |
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