| Do you support the War on Terror? |
| Yes (I don't like terrorists) |
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| No (I am a terrorist, actually.) lol |
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Fire_Goddess
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 Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:38 am Post subject: |
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| kolobed wrote: |
1. ummm, no. russians that hold american citizenships as well as russian citizenships cannot be legally deported, no matter where they were born. where did you get that from?
2. israel is not overcrowded, in fact, there are numerous programs, initiated by israel that concentrate on bringing youth from the diaspora in hopes of getting them to stay. they want more jews in israel. in fact, they need more jews in israel.
you are grossly misinformed. |
You can be stripped of your U.S. citizenship at any time that the government see's fit if you werent born here. Its usually reserved for certain types of crime, but with the whole war on terrorism you never know what types of laws will pass that will make it even easier to strip someone of their citizenship. Israel can not fit EVER SINGLE jew from all over the world. Its not possible unless you plan to build skyscrapers that reach astronomical heights. |
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surfguy
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:38 am Post subject: |
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: | | surfguy wrote: | | there is obviously very anti Israeli sentiment coming from you Fire G. do you know that Israel is a very religiously tolerant country...especially when compared to it's neigbors...you should go to there if you haven't been. I hope to go with in the next couple of years...would love to see Jeruselem |
You pretend like Palestinians never existed in the region, and matter very little as human beings. I have never pretended that jews didnt exist in the region or acted as if they meant very little as human beings. |
no not true...and as I've stated previously...I want and think that there should be a Independent Palestinian state...which is what they have...but they have to be civil with thier neigbors which they have not been. Ok so few years back suicide bombers were a regular occurance in Israel...the bombers were coming from Palestine. The agreement had been made that Israel would pull out of Palestinian lands which they did...bombs still kept going off...so the Israelis built a wall so that the Palestinians would have to enter Israel via border crossings and check points proving it hard to get the bombers accross lo and behold this did the trick and there were hardly any more suice bombs going off. So what happens next...rockets start flying into Israel and then the Lebanese war starts. See Palestine thinks that everyone should fund thier new nation...support them...why? Why should they be funded by everyone else...they should earn thier keep in the world and prosper on thier own. Just because they are a country and that we gave them thier country doesn't mean we have to conduct business with them...we owe them nothing. We being the world...Palestine needs to prove themselves |
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kolobed
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Location: merkaba
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| hey fire... just out of curiousity, which part of the united states do you live in? |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| kolobed wrote: | | hey fire... just out of curiousity, which part of the united states do you live in? |
California |
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kolobed
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| ok, thanks. big city or a small one? and also, how old are you? once again, i'm just curious, i won't use it against you or anything. i know that these questions seem kinda creepy, so you don't have to answer if you don't want to. |
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surfguy
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:50 am Post subject: |
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: | | surfguy wrote: |
yes but I was thinking about us as individuals shouold be concerned |
There is obviously a propaganda war which tries to vilify anyone who doesnt support illegals, and call them anti immigrants and even go as far as to label them racists. What is a common citizen to do when their elected officials refuse to act in the best interests of the community and would rather cater to the PC crowd, and their idea of a "perfect world". |
so do you think the same could be said that the PC crowd tries to villify anyone who supports israel? I think so
In so far as the immigration issue here is concerned here some interesting facts:
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1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County ( L.A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on
Medi-Cal , whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican
nationals here illegally.
6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely
illegal aliens from south of the border.
8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.
10. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in L.A. County . )
(All of the above are from the Los Angeles Times)
Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare.
Over 70% of the United States ' annual population growth (and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration.
29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens. |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:50 am Post subject: |
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| kolobed wrote: | | ok, thanks. big city or a small one? and also, how old are you? once again, i'm just curious, i won't use it against you or anything. i know that these questions seem kinda creepy, so you don't have to answer if you don't want to. |
I live in southern California, 30 mins south of Los Angeles, in Orange county. And I will be 26 this september. |
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kolobed
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| thank you. |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| surfguy wrote: |
so do you think the same could be said that the PC crowd tries to villify anyone who supports israel? I think so
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Depends on who you're talking to. |
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Fire_Goddess
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| kolobed wrote: | | thank you. |
Your welcome |
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surfguy
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| So much of the world suffers from the same immigration problem that we are currently involved in...Kosovo is a prime example, Russia sees similar problems...France is seeing similar problems |
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RusskiCanadian23
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Joined: 27 Mar 2007
Posts: 1104
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada/Ванкувер, Британская Колумбия, Канада
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| surfguy wrote: | | So much of the world suffers from the same immigration problem that we are currently involved in...Kosovo is a prime example, Russia sees similar problems...France is seeing similar problems |
No, in Russia, even if police is too corrupt at the time to deal with it, there's always the skinheads, the Cossacks, and the DPNI (Movement Against Illegal Immigration) to take action. lol Oh, and also the Orthodox Slavic Nationalists too. And the Slavic Union Movement. And you also have the natsbols (NBP, National Bolshevik Party). Etc, etc, etc.) |
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Jemascola
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: | | I cant vote either way because I do not support terrorists, but I also do not approve of the ambiguous, "War on terror". I especially do not support the efforts of governments who sponsor terrorism in certain regions for monetary and political gain, and then if any of the victims try to fight back they quickly get labeled terrorists, when they are simply reacting, and not acting. |
I agree. |
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RusskiCanadian23
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Joined: 27 Mar 2007
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Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada/Ванкувер, Британская Колумбия, Канада
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| Jemascola wrote: | | Fire_Goddess wrote: | | I cant vote either way because I do not support terrorists, but I also do not approve of the ambiguous, "War on terror". I especially do not support the efforts of governments who sponsor terrorism in certain regions for monetary and political gain, and then if any of the victims try to fight back they quickly get labeled terrorists, when they are simply reacting, and not acting. |
I agree. |
True. The US does that a lot. So does Russia. I mean Iran gets a lot of it's weapons from Russia, and then supplies Hezbollah, Hamas, etc... |
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