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RusskiCanadian23 Lounge Wizard Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 1104 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada/Ванкувер, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:44 am    Post subject: Explanation: This is probably a pointless thread, but here goes. I just wanted to clarify on my political beliefs in general, and on my being so defencive about the Soviet Union-related topics. You see, when I think about the USSR, I think about my original country of birth, my biological mother, so to speak. Canada is, in a sence, my step-mother. It took me in, fed me, clothed me, helped me get on in life. For this I am grateful. The USSR, on the other hand is my real, biological, birth mother. It raised me, brought me up, educated me. It is where I was born. I am, actually an epitome of a Soviet man. My mother, a Russian woman from Irkutsk, my father, a Ukrainian man, from Poltava. My ansestry on my mother's side has also Jewish, and Polish roots. A great-grandfather of my dad's, was a Cossack by birth and by family. My best friends, who went throught school together with me, and then through Morpeh, one of them, Artem Beratishvilli, a full blood Georgian, from Gori, the other, Lesha Lapitsky, a Belorussian of Jewish ansestry. That is how it was back then. There was no "race". We were all Soviet. That what mattered. When USSR fell apart in 1991, I, as other "Soviet", not "Russian", "Ukrainian", "Kazakh", "Estonian", and other types of people, but those who called themselves "Soviet", and carried a Soviet passport, and stated our nationality as "Советский человек", we all became orphans. Our mother country died. We are like Kurds now. Or Gypsies. Or Jews before the creation of Isreal. Stateless. Homeless, in a sentimental way. All that is left of our country, is a pathetic rotten corpse, that calls itself the "CIS", "СНГ", the non-excistant "Commonwealth of Independent States". All those corrupt greedy people in all those "countries" crawling freely, or howering above the corpse, like so much flies. Sucking all that's left out of the severed limbs (that would be the so-called "independent states"). Untill there is nothing. Then the flies will fly away, and the corpse, or what's left of it, will rot away into the ground. Untill then, the flies will continue sucking whatever blood is left in the dead weins of the USSR. At least Yugoslavia received a good funeral! If I were in Moscow that day. The day, when alcoholic thief Eltsin read his ridiculous speach off that tank. I'd raise my AK, and fire. Fire without remorse. I'd feel no guilt. No qualms. Just blow the bastard's head right off his shoulders before he could ever finish... Oh, well... He is dead now anyway. Got his sentence enacted after all. Hope he is in hell right about now. Just like all his "supporters", like Berezovsky, Gaidar, and others. They will all get what they deserve. I am sure that, eventually, the Soviet Union WILL come back to life. It WILL claw it's way out of it's grave. Then, no one that supported Eltsin and his corrupt gang of murderers will be safe from rightful vengeance! Don't take this as an insane rumble. It's not. It's just one of life-long dreams. That one day, I will have a birth country after all.
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surfguy Lounge Wizard Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6979	Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:58 am    Post subject: Ruskii...that's great but to me and the others you are a russian...all your personal mumbo jumbo is well personal...and no need to justify yourself...hey most of us regulars are out of here and in a different forum now...good luck to you in all your endeavors!
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Lao-Shu Frequent Guest Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 24	Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Explanation: RusskiCanadian23 wrote: ...I left my country so many years ago, now I am unable to go back. You see, aparently my old passport isn't good enough... Russki, what is the problem? Go to the Embassy and change your old passport on the new one. It might be difficult, but it should be possible. Then visit Russia, take a look how life goes on there. May be it will calm you down.
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RusskiCanadian23 Lounge Wizard Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 1104 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada/Ванкувер, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: Explanation: Lao Shu wrote: RusskiCanadian23 wrote: ...I left my country so many years ago, now I am unable to go back. You see, aparently my old passport isn't good enough... Russki, what is the problem? Go to the Embassy and change your old passport on the new one. It might be difficult, but it should be possible. Then visit Russia, take a look how life goes on there. May be it will calm you down. Why couldn't you just post that on the thread that it was originally on, man? Got me confused there..., no, I went over to the Consulate in Seattle... they say, it is extremely difficult... and apparently Canada is out of their jurisdiction, can you believe that! That means I have to go all the way to either the Toronto Consulate, or the Embassy in Ottawa... seems too much trouble to me, then it's worth, you know... The Russian passport system, as of lately is a horrible mess... And the life in today's Russia isn't as great as you think... worse then it was, in some ways, actually... ah hell, at least the birth rates are improving... was 8/1000 in the 90s... now 10.9/1000... so there's hope yet... hehe Also, pensions, and salaries are growing too, but very slowly, like 5%/year. Not much to be proud of. In USSR we had much faster growth, I tell you... in the 60s and 70s at least... And the birthrate was a stable 12-13/1000 average in ALL Republics! Take that! Hehe, just kidding... It's all alcoholism's fault... fucking vodka... it kills you. Slowly but surely. That is why I don't drink vodka. Because I don't want to die at 50, like many men in Russia.
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Daria Lounge Wizard Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 1146 Location: Canada	Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: Explanation: RusskiCanadian23 wrote: ..........And the life in today's Russia isn't as great as you think... worse then it was..... When were you in Russia last time, Russki? I may asure you, Russia is just wonderful.
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gomer WayToRussified Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 445	Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Explanation: RusskiCanadian23 wrote: Because I don't want to die at 50, like many men in Russia. Is it rare to find a man 50 or more years of age in Russia?
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Lao-Shu Frequent Guest Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 24	Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Explanation: RusskiCanadian23 wrote: That means I have to go all the way to either the Toronto Consulate, or the Embassy in Ottawa... seems too much trouble to me, then it's worth, you know... Russki, I do not understand you. The USSR has gone. Whether you like it or not, you cannot turn the history back. Instead of dreaming about unrealistic things, you could do something practical, like getting your new Russian passport. Of course, it will be a lot of troubles, but there is no other way. If you do not do it, you will not be able to go to Russia anymore. If you prefer not to bother, it's okay. But then you should not complain that you feel upset, you are an orphan or something like that. Just keep busy with building your new life in Canada.
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RusskiCanadian23 Lounge Wizard Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 1104 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada/Ванкувер, Британская Колумбия, Канада	Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Re: Explanation: Lao Shu wrote: If you do not do it, you will not be able to go to Russia anymore. Actually I still can, but as a tourist. With a Canadian Passport, and a Russian Visa. BTW, don't automatically associate me with Russia: don't forget, my Grandfather lives in, and is a citizen of Ukraine. In fact I'd been contacted, not long ago, by the Ukrainian Consulate in Toronto. They told me that if I refuse my Russian Citizenship, they can arrange it for me to get a Ukrainian one instead. А шо, Украинську Мову я бачу... Maybe I should become Ukrainian instead. Ukrainians are a proud people. Even more so then the Russians! Hehe.
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Lao-Shu Frequent Guest Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 24	Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Explanation: RusskiCanadian23 wrote: Actually I still can, but as a tourist. With a Canadian Passport, and a Russian Visa... Maybe I should become Ukrainian... You have a lot of choices. You already have a Canadian passport. You can get a Russian passport, but you do not want to do it because the Embassy is far away. You can also get a Ukranian passport. You can even travel to Russia with a Canadian Passport, and a Russian Visa, although, for normal Russian citizens this would be illegal. Many people have much less than you, and they do not complain.
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Daria Lounge Wizard Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 1146 Location: Canada	Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Explanation: Lao Shu wrote: RusskiCanadian23 wrote: Actually I still can, but as a tourist. With a Canadian Passport, and a Russian Visa... Maybe I should become Ukrainian... Many people have much less than you, and they do not complain. This is our Big Russian soul for you, Lao Shu. We are never happy with what we have or where we are. Drama, we always need some drama in our lives.
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surfguy Lounge Wizard Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6979	Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:55 pm    Post subject: ...yes because drama keeps life interesting!
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Yuri-s-Girl WayToRussified Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 371 Location: Ontario	Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:47 am    Post subject: Re: Explanation: RusskiCanadian23 wrote: Lao Shu wrote: If you do not do it, you will not be able to go to Russia anymore. Actually I still can, but as a tourist. With a Canadian Passport, and a Russian Visa. BTW, don't automatically associate me with Russia: don't forget, my Grandfather lives in, and is a citizen of Ukraine. In fact I'd been contacted, not long ago, by the Ukrainian Consulate in Toronto. They told me that if I refuse my Russian Citizenship, they can arrange it for me to get a Ukrainian one instead. А шо, Украинську Мову я бачу... Maybe I should become Ukrainian instead. Ukrainians are a proud people. Even more so then the Russians! Hehe. I hear some of the same discontent from my boyfriend, who is Russian, born in the Ukraine. He gets upset with me because being born and raised in Canada, I have no real understanding of what it was like to watch your country fall apart. He thinks Liberalism is killing Toronto and Canada as a whole. He wants to move away from Toronto, perhaps even go back to the Ukraine someday. For his sake, I hope he can return. That would make him the happiest. I wonder if he would agree if Ukrainians were prouder than Russians? I'll have to ask him. Interesting! YG
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surfguy Lounge Wizard Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6979	Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:19 am    Post subject: Ukrainians I find to be very proud and places like Odessa are booming right now too. Your BF is right liberalism is killing Canada. WHich actually I think most Russians tend to be fairly conservative and traditional. Which actually is why I tend to agree with Putin in terms of he is doing what is in the best interest of Russia and the Government and big business there. Although as far as the people go or other nations...perhaps things should be different. But how can we fault him when he is a product of the system. Can Russia really be measured based on Western Standards? I don't think so...that would be like having a catholic priest trying to teach religion to a buhdist monk. So yuri's girl...have you been to the Ukraine and do you want to go?
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Yuri-s-Girl WayToRussified Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 371 Location: Ontario	Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: I haven't been anywhere in a long time, I'd go just about anywhere! Well not just anywhere but sure, I'd go visit the Ukraine, and, gee, I forget, what is Russia called now? It's not the USSR anymore, it's something else right? Well maybe someday I will go. My friend went about 5 years ago and she said it was really fascinating. She was in St Petersburg, I think she went to Moscow. Her pictures, the scenes were very imposing, totally unlike my little city of Toronto for sure. Putin, my boyfriend doesn't like him. I don't think there has been any leader he's liked so far. I can't imagine growing up there. It seems almost alien to me. I feel like my life here has been so coddled. No hardship. YG Last edited by Yuri-s-Girl on Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:13 am; edited 1 time in total
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surfguy Lounge Wizard Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6979	Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject: Welll Russia is now called...Russia! and the Ukraine is the Ukraine. Yes traveling is great...I actually left my camera in Russia...with all my photos. You should go on to earth google if you haven't already...it's a good way to cyber travel
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