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StephenB.
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| MrSpice wrote: | | nikir wrote: | Stephen, may I suggest that you pay a little more attention to grammar and punctuation when you post.
Doing so will give you credibility.
Especially now, when you are telling two countries how to live! |
nikir - please that large carrot out of your ass and stop telling Stephen how and what to write. Stephen knows what to do. For someone living in the Bronx, he is doing quite well. |
LOL...Spice, I think he likes the carrot in his ARSE, as they say in Australia. I would love to stick some of these people in the Bronx for ten minutes and say, "Find your way out alive." Nikir with his stupid Russian/Australian attitude would be crying and I would be laughing. In the background I will be singing "God Bless America"...LOL...Also, it's the same people who respond to my posts, they know who they are. |
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bswaminathan
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| Quote: | | BS, I do have Indian friends here in NYC who didn't have a say on who they wanted as a spouse, therefore, they are stuck in a loveless marriage due to ancient traditions that should be discontinued. |
Who said INDIAns have a loveless marriage. Love is something a broad subject. in general Love should be with one and not everybody you see. Even if your 1st love is a flop then the 2nd attempt is always with desperate. When i say i love somebody i should see her insights and decide if my way of life matches with her. It should definitely be not with her status, education, wealth and appearance (structure) and most important, before marriage it should be restricted physical contact. These aspects our guys do really have lot. you can see many INDIAn guys as you said, but how of you really find them staying there permanently and have a spouse from non INDIAn origin. This is what our culture is,
EACH ONE CATCH ONE. we do have a belief that our parents will do everything good to us.
I was not pointing wrong by US citizens, but something done by the govt. |
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surfguy
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| Quote: | | I agree with you that we are here for a friendly discussion, but you are always talking about the United States and pointing out the negative, so I turned the tables on you. We are all human and want to only point out the good in our own countries, but in reality we are all the same people looking for a sence of security for our families and some peace in the world. I've talked about Stalin because that's what we are talking about in this room. To me, Stalin was a bastard, however, to some he was their God. So, we are all going to have different views on this guy. Just stay on the topic. |
Couldn't agree more...and this is the honest truth...and way I feel too. Stephen B is spot on! |
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StephenB.
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| bswaminathan wrote: | | Quote: | | BS, I do have Indian friends here in NYC who didn't have a say on who they wanted as a spouse, therefore, they are stuck in a loveless marriage due to ancient traditions that should be discontinued. |
Who said INDIAns have a loveless marriage. Love is something a broad subject. in general Love should be with one and not everybody you see. Even if your 1st love is a flop then the 2nd attempt is always with desperate. When i say i love somebody i should see her insights and decide if my way of life matches with her. It should definitely be not with her status, education, wealth and appearance (structure) and most important, before marriage it should be restricted physical contact. These aspects our guys do really have lot. you can see many INDIAn guys as you said, but how of you really find them staying there permanently and have a spouse from non INDIAn origin. This is what our culture is,
EACH ONE CATCH ONE. we do have a belief that our parents will do everything good to us.
I was not pointing wrong by US citizens, but something done by the govt. |
I'm not saying that Indians have loveless marriage, but you pointed out that Americans are raised by one parent and divorce etc...I was saying that at least we can pick our spouses unlike some parts of India where one has to wait until it's arranged. Burning brides are not just an internal issue, it's a government issue and a human rights issue. So, I was talking about your gov't as well. You may be on the subject of war/oil with the United States, but I'm on the subject of human rights in India it's all related to government. Then again BS, we are off the subject of this room...so lets end it. |
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RusskiCanadian23
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| Quote: | Comrade Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin, the greatest genius of the present age, the great teacher of the world Communist movement, and the comrade-in-arms of the immortal Lenin, has departed from the world.
Comrade Stalin's contribution to our era through his theoretical activities and practice is incalculable. Comrade Stalin represented our entire new age. His activities have let the Soviet people and the working people of all countries to turn around the whole world situation. That is to say, the cause of justice and of People's Democracy and socialism has achieved victory in an immense region of the world, a region embracing more than 800 million people — one third of the earth's population. Moreover, the influence of this victory is daily spreading to every corner of the world.
The death of Comrade Stalin has caused the laboring people of the whole world to feel unparalleled and profound grief; it has stirred the hearts of just people throughout the world. This demonstrates that Comrade Stalin's cause and his thought have gripped the broad masses of the people throughout the world and have already become an invincible force, a force that will guide those people who have already achieved victory in achieving still more fresh victories, one after another, and, at the same time, will guide all those people who are still groaning under the oppression of the evil old world of capitalism so that they can strike courageously at the enemies of the people.
After the death of Lenin, Comrade Stalin led the Soviet people in building into a magnificent socialist society the first socialist state in the world, which he, together with the great Lenin, created at the time of the October Revolution. The victory of socialist construction in the Soviet Union was not only a victory for the people of the Soviet Union, but also a common victory for the people of the whole world. First, this victory proved in the most real ( live terms the infinite correctness of Marxism-Leninism and concretely educated working people through out the world on how they should advance toward a good life. Second, this victory ensured that during the Second World War humanity would have the strength to defeat the Fascist beast. The achievement of victory in the anti-Fascist war, and the glory for these victories should be attributed to our great Comrade Stalin.
Comrade Stalin developed Marxist-Leninist theory in a comprehensive and epoch-making way and propelled the development of Marxism to a new stage. Comrade Stalin creatively developed Lenin's theory concerning the law of the uneven development of capitalism and the theory that it is possible for socialism to first achieve victory in one country; Comrade Stalin creatively contributed the theory of the general crisis of the capitalist system.; he contributed the theory concerning the building of communism in the Soviet Union; he contributed the theory of the fundamental economic laws of present-day capitalism and of socialism; he contributed the theory of revolution in colonies and semi-colonies. Comrade Stalin also creatively developed Lenin's theory of party building. All these creative theories of Comrade Stalin's further united the workers throughout the world, further united the oppressed classes and oppressed people throughout the world, thereby enabling the struggle of the world's working class and all oppressed people for liberation and well-being and the victories in this struggle to reach unprecedented proportions.
All of Comrade Stalin's writing are immortal documents of Marxism. His works, The Foundations of Leninism, The History of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union [Bolshevik], and his last great work, Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR, constitute an encyclopedia of Marxism-Leninism, a synthesis of the experience of the world Communist movement of the past hundred years. His speech at the Nineteenth Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union is a precious last testament bequeathed to the Communists of all the countries of the world. We Chinese Communists, like the Communists of all countries, search for our own road to victory in the great works of Comrade Stalin.
Since the death of Lenin, Comrade Stalin has always been the central figure in the world Communist movement. We rallied around him, constantly asked his advice, and constantly drew ideological strength from his works. Comrade Stalin was full of warmth for the oppressed peoples of the East. "Do not forget the East" ( this was Comrade Stalin's great call after the October Revolution. Everyone knows that Comrade Stalin warmly loved the Chinese people and regarded the might of the Chinese revolution as incalculable. On the question of the Chinese revolution, he contributed his exalted wisdom. It was by following the teachings of Lenin and Stalin, along with having the support of the great Soviet state and all the revolutionary forces of other countries, that the Communist Party of China and the Chinese people achieved their historic victory a few years ago.
Now we have lost our great teacher and most sincere friend Comrade Stalin. What a misfortune this is! The sorrow that this misfortune has brought us cannot be described in words.
Our task is to transform sorrow into strength. In memory of our great teacher Stalin, the great friendship between the Communist Party of China and the Chinese people [on the one hand] and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the Soviet People [on the other] formed in the name of Stalin will never cease to be strengthened. The Chinese Communists and the Chinese people will further intensify the study of Stalin's teachings and the study of Soviet science and technology in order to build our country.
The Communist Party of the Soviet Union is a party nurtured personally by Lenin and Stalin; it is the most advanced, the most experienced, and the most theoretically cultivated party in the world. This party has been our model in the past, is our model at present, and will still be our model in the future. We fully believe that the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the government of the Soviet Union headed by Comrade Malenkov will definitely be able to carry on Comrade Stalin's unfinished work and push the great cause of Communism forward and carry it to greater and more glorious development.
There is not the slightest doubt that the camp of world peace, democracy, and socialism headed by the Soviet Union will become even more united and even more powerful.
In the past thirty years, Comrade Stalin's teachings and the model of the construction of socialism in the Soviet Union have facilitated a major step forward for the world. Now that the Soviet Union has become so powerful the Chinese people's revolution has achieved such great victories, construction in the various people's democracies has achieved such great success, the movement of the peoples of various countries throughout the world against oppression and aggression has risen to such heights, and our front of friendship and solidarity is so consolidated, we can say with complete certainty that we are not afraid of any imperialist aggression. Any imperialist aggression will be smashed by us, and all their despicable provocation will be to no avail.
The reason that the great friendship between the peoples of the two countries, China and the Soviet Union, is unbreakable is that our friendship has been built on the great principles of the internationalism of Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin. The friendship between the peoples of the two countries, China and the Soviet Union, and the peoples of the various people's democracies, as well as with all the people who love peace, democracy, and justice in all the countries of the world is also built upon these great principles of internationalism and consequently is also unbreakable.
Clearly, the strength created by this kind of friendship of ours is inexhaustible and truly invincible.
Let all imperialist aggressors and warmongers tremble before our great friendship!
Long live the teaching of Marx, Lenin and Stalin!
Immortal glory to the heroic name of the great Stalin! |
http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-7/mswv7_299.htm
The People's Daily newspaper (People's Republic of China), 1953 issue.
This is the reaction to Stalin's death in China. What have you to say to this, surfey? |
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yorbcbud
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You know, Victor, you'll rarely find an American who'll hear a single good thing you say about Communism, because to them it's evil to care about feeding your citizens, giving them health care, etc, etc. To them, Communism is evil, they don't even know why they think it's evil.
They want to have a society with huge gaps between poor, and rich, people starving in back alleys, while their government wages illegal wars overseas, all the while ignoring the health and welfare of it's own citizens. |
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jo-jo-7
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| MrSpice wrote: | | jo jo 7 wrote: | Russki, I was wondering where everybody went lately, nobody is posting anything....  |
Exactly! I am outraged. I assume that men that used to post in here went back to striking their dongs. I can only imagine what you're doing with yourself... |
I am staying busy after my car accident. Learning to read Russian (Russian Stories - Dual Language, 12 short Russian stories: Pushkin, Gogol, Tolstoy..ect). Sveta loaned me her book.
What about you, you haven't exactly been on the forum yourself? Ya know, everybody could say that you were among the men in that bunch... |
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surfguy
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| the problem with communism is that the ruling members get what ever they want while the average person is forcefully deprived. BC why don't you move to russia then? Ruskii posting something from China is pointless...In 1953 China was was very Pro USSR. I can find and post all sorts of negative opinions on Stalin and on The USSR. Just as you can on the USA...or any where else. Russia is russia and I do not have to have it be like here in the USA nor do I want it to be. Lets keep the world interesting like it is. This isn't a pissing contest. My point was that Stalin was responsible for killing millions of Soviet citizens...period. Its a fact...and I am not here debating reasons. BC do you want this thread locked too...quit flaming...And Ruskii perhaps it's time to return to mother Russia |
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surfguy
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Rf42zNl9U
Oh and as far as Canadian health care goes...
watch the above video
Socialism just doesn't work...and Stalin promoted a regime that ultimately failed...and this is what history has proven!!! |
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StephenB.
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| surfguy wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Rf42zNl9U
Oh and as far as Canadian health care goes...
watch the above video
Socialism just doesn't work...and Stalin promoted a regime that ultimately failed...and this is what history has proven!!! |
Surf, they love to fight...it's an endless battle with these guys. They should move to Cuba, they would feel at home. They love Russia from a distance, they wouldn't move back there because they are very comfortable living in the West. |
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surfguy
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| StephenB. wrote: | | surfguy wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Rf42zNl9U
Oh and as far as Canadian health care goes...
watch the above video
Socialism just doesn't work...and Stalin promoted a regime that ultimately failed...and this is what history has proven!!! |
Surf, they love to fight...it's an endless battle with these guys. They should move to Cuba, they would feel at home. They love Russia from a distance, they wouldn't move back there because they are very comfortable living in the West. |
Well Ruskii loves Russia and I can understand that...he is after all Russian. But the hairy dude that guy hasn't a clue about the world...he is just the red headed step child (canadian) envious of the US. Really he needs to go to russia...especially to Moscow or St Petersburg...see how long he would last! Ha...not a chance! |
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darthvader
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| yorbcbud wrote: | You know, Victor, you'll rarely find an American who'll hear a single good thing you say about Communism, because to them it's evil to care about feeding your citizens, giving them health care, etc, etc. To them, Communism is evil, they don't even know why they think it's evil.
They want to have a society with huge gaps between poor, and rich, people starving in back alleys, while their government wages illegal wars overseas, all the while ignoring the health and welfare of it's own citizens. |
Hmmm.......Communism in action.......Unfortunately, Communist policies were responsible for the untold millions of deaths (including starvation) of Soviet and Chinese citizens throughout the 20th century. Sad, but true. Where else on earth had so many people been murdered, starved, displaced, and enslaved by their own totalitarian governments in the last 100 years? This surely sours all the positives made, and all the noble ideals that Communist theory has?
I suppose not for some of you here. |
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yorbcbud
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| darthvader wrote: | | yorbcbud wrote: | You know, Victor, you'll rarely find an American who'll hear a single good thing you say about Communism, because to them it's evil to care about feeding your citizens, giving them health care, etc, etc. To them, Communism is evil, they don't even know why they think it's evil.
They want to have a society with huge gaps between poor, and rich, people starving in back alleys, while their government wages illegal wars overseas, all the while ignoring the health and welfare of it's own citizens. |
Hmmm.......Communism in action.......Unfortunately, Communist policies were responsible for the untold millions of deaths (including starvation) of Soviet and Chinese citizens throughout the 20th century. Sad, but true. Where else on earth had so many people been murdered, starved, displaced, and enslaved by their own totalitarian governments in the last 100 years? This surely sours all the positives made, and all the noble ideals that Communist theory has?
I suppose not for some of you here. |
That's true. Nobody has ever died as a result of capitalism, have they? |
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surfguy
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| Well BC the US is far from being bankrupt...glad you understand economics...NOT! My theory is working out fine...When you get educated and can actually carry on a conversation based on critical thinking come talk...other wise perhaps it is best you leave the forum Also my travels far out do yours and no worries I can post all the photos that I want...but can you Ken...well of course not! You haven't been to any where. So go back into your bus and roll up a fatty! |
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yorbcbud
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| surfguy wrote: | | Well BC the US is far from being bankrupt...glad you understand economics...NOT! My theory is working out fine...When you get educated and can actually carry on a conversation based on critical thinking come talk...other wise perhaps it is best you leave the forum Also my travels far out do yours and no worries I can post all the photos that I want...but can you Ken...well of course not! You haven't been to any where. So go back into your bus and roll up a fatty! |
Let's see them James. I am interested in your travel pics. Please favour us with some examples. I was in California last month, where were you? You haven't been anywhere for at least two years, I've already had 3 vacations. Granted, they weren't to Russia, but at least I've been somewhere. How about you?I have pics from just about everywhere I go. Missed out on the SD fire pics, but I had some fun times. Probably more than you have lately. That screen must be permanently etched in your brain by now. C'mon buddy. Get up, go outside and enjoy the world. You must be getting tired of this place by now. |
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