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rieram
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 Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: Transiberian during winter |
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We are planning a travel accross Siberia with the transiberian during the next chrismas holydays but we are afraid with the temperatures during this season.
Han anyone experience in travelling during these dates. Is it too hard or freeze conditions are assumable with adequate clothes?
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overseas_expat
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Location: Moscow
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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The train itself, if it is anything like most Russian trains (haven't been on the Trans-Siberian), will be so overheated you will wish for a breath of sub freezing air. Outside it will likely be around around 0 fahrenheit or below. Possibly well below. That's pretty cold.
What happens then, when it's hot inside the train and really cold outside--the windows fog up and freeze. You can't see a thing.
The other problem is that the weeks around the winter solstice, Dec. 21, there isn't any daylight anyway. It's always dark. Some people think only of the Russian cold in winter and forget that in the dead of winter that far north, there isn't any daylight either. This is a problem for those who would like to sightsee. You can't. There's no light.
I'm not sure why people would spend $1000+ dollars on the Tran-Siberian in the dark and cold of Russian winter. It escapes me. |
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vox16
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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The other problem is that the weeks around the winter solstice, Dec. 21, there isn't any daylight anyway. It's always dark.
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Not always, but before 9am and after 4pm ( in Moscow ). Note that most of transsib is further south than Moscow. |
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UsualSuspect
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Location: The Land of Oz
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject: Winter trains.. |
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rieram,
What Expat says. The trains are heated too well. Since I have filthy habits, I used to cool off in the smoking section which generally has hoar frost all through it. One train was so unbearable I had a smoke on a godforsaken platform @ 2:00 a.m. somewhere (Taishet?) wearing only thongs, a t-shirt and shorts. Mind you that was a "speed smoke"  .
You will have to plan for "both" seasons. Inside the train is warm/hot, outside at night the cold can be plain punishing.
HTH
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gomer
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| overseas_expat wrote: | Outside it will likely be around around 0 fahrenheit or below. Possibly well below. That's pretty cold.
What happens then, when it's hot inside the train and really cold outside--the windows fog up and freeze. You can't see a thing.
I'm not sure why people would spend $1000+ dollars on the Tran-Siberian in the dark and cold of Russian winter. It escapes me. |
It's a shame to spend all that money for trip and then can't see anything unless you go outside and freeze. Would using anti-fog wipes on the windows help or is it too cold for even that to work? |
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tmac100
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It's a shame to spend all that money for trip and then can't see anything unless you go outside and freeze. Would using anti-fog wipes on the windows help or is it too cold for even that to work?[/quote]
Why not sit in front of a TV set with potato chips and a mint julep or beer in your hand and curse at the team that is losing ..?
Folks want information not some opinion about why they WANT to do some travel.
No anti-fog wipes won't work.
Are you from some warm country - like the northern USA? If so, please forgive my incredulity at your comment about the anti-fog wipes. Forget the wipes, you won't be able to carry enough on the train to make them work.. |
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NM
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: Nov |
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Would the weather and the whole nightmares as bad in late Nov?? I and my sis are planning the trip to go to Moscow and St Petersburg as well so with only 10 days I am wondering if it's worth to do the train or simply fly right to the 2 recommended destination along the trans siberia route?
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NM
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| I was referring to Lake Baikal and Mount Altai |
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RusskiCanadian23
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| NM wrote: | | I was referring to Lake Baikal and Mount Altai |
It might be cold. But I don't think it'll be too bad. |
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Gyuri_FT
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| overseas_expat wrote: |
I'm not sure why people would spend $1000+ dollars
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It escapes me why people would spend $1000+ Dollars to begin with if a r/t CITY-STAR ticket from Moscow to Zabaikal'sk or Naushki is 100 Euro and the bed reservation is an other 100 Euro at max (each way).
Also, some travel offices won't mind to combine the CIV-based CITY-STAR ticket with MPT-based "platskarta" from Moscow to Beijing and MPT-based "dopolnitel'nyj bilet" from Zabaikal'sk to Beijing.
This is barely $300 o/w and ca. $400 for a r/t. Not sure, where the $1000 is than. Unless someone ignores CITY-STAR tickets. But they were warned. |
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