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Syria's Russian made Air Defenses-useless
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bswaminathan
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as yogurt has high HDL and low LDL(types of good & bad colestrol) it is good. but at the same time it doesn't do any favor to heart disease or stroke.
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darthvader
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

surfguy wrote:
Oh lord! Rolling Eyes Shocked

Well I have seen Jojo...and she is not fat, and DV is no woman


Well, how come BS thought I was then? Or, is he trying to get in touch with my feminine side, wherever that might be? Smile

bswaminathan wrote:
If DV is right, let her reply to my posts directly......

But, when will BS first comprehensively read and answer DV's earlier posts directly?

Anyway, forget all that. Is Syria getting anymore Russian air-defenses supplied to them? If not, maybe BS will iron out all the technical flaws - software and/or hardware?
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bswaminathan
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If not, maybe BS will iron out all the technical flaws - software and/or hardware?


By all means if i know that and i got such a opportunity.
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

darthvader wrote:
surfguy wrote:
Oh lord! Rolling Eyes Shocked

Well I have seen Jojo...and she is not fat, and DV is no woman


Well, how come BS thought I was then? Or, is he trying to get in touch with my feminine side, wherever that might be? Smile

bswaminathan wrote:
If DV is right, let her reply to my posts directly......

But, when will BS first comprehensively read and answer DV's earlier posts directly?

Anyway, forget all that. Is Syria getting anymore Russian air-defenses supplied to them? If not, maybe BS will iron out all the technical flaws - software and/or hardware?


well let's see...with victory in Iraq fast approaching...Syria will be needing more than air defenses...as will Iran.
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bswaminathan
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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well let's see...with victory in Iraq fast approaching


victory in IRAQ? war on mass murder(genocide).

surfguy are you dreaming or is it a future Hollywood movie? if its a Hollywood movie then at least they might have funds to release a trailer. But the real movie may be recommended for award like Oscar but in reality most war opposer's will strike to ban that movie.

But bush will make sure that it won Oscar so that he can use it for election campaign.
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well even our leftist media here in the USA has been covering the news of the defeat of Al Queda in Baghdad and abroad...the shops now are open until much later businesses are thriving and the death toll has dropped dramatically...so yes big changes going on there!
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bswaminathan
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if your assumptions are exact. then why the war fund bill is not approved and bush should have announced worldwide that the war has won and where is the evidence of WMD?

In a particular region of IRAQ there concentration might be less, but it doesn't mean its eradicated.
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BS...do you not understand how politics work...the war fund bill was presented...it gets vetoed...then congress will come up with another war fund bill...and if it is acceptable then the president will approve it. So they are arguing over what the wants and needs are. There will be a bill. And BTW the defense bill always gets dealt with in this way. 2ndly the whole Al Queda plan of defense of baghdad was found by the usa...it was then countered with success...the Al Queda fighters were then chased out of baghdad into the surrounding areas where coalition forces easily destroyed them. This is all out now in the news. And the streets of baghdad...things are starting to happen. So we shall see...but yep pay attention you will will discover success in Iraq
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StephenB.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bswaminathan wrote:
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well let's see...with victory in Iraq fast approaching


victory in IRAQ? war on mass murder(genocide).

surfguy are you dreaming or is it a future Hollywood movie? if its a Hollywood movie then at least they might have funds to release a trailer. But the real movie may be recommended for award like Oscar but in reality most war opposer's will strike to ban that movie.

But bush will make sure that it won Oscar so that he can use it for election campaign.


Mass Genocide?? I think you are getting America mixed up with Hussein who genocide the Kurds in the North and to some extent genocide the Shia people in the South of Iraq. Americans are not genociding if that's such as word, but defeating people who would like to kill everyone that is not a fundamental Muslim. Maybe one day when India will be taken over by these fundamentalist in the North then we'll see what your country will do. Look what's happening in your Northern state of Kashmir...let Hindus live there and see if they can survive the terror and the murders. One day the Muslims will take over India and then what? Ask for help?
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bswaminathan
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe one day when India will be taken over by these fundamentalist in the North then we'll see what your country will do. Look what's happening in your Northern state of Kashmir...let Hindus live there and see if they can survive the terror and the murders. One day the Muslims will take over India and then what? Ask for help?


for us security is not a issue. In INDIA HINDUs are predominant and even the current gandhian family is basically a kashmiri Hindu. we will not defeat others and so we don't have any trouble. Muslims they are there but in minority. INDIA is a multi culture society. here everybody lives as friends. I don't foresee any trouble as you project. Here there is no concept called "take over" probably one day it might be probable USA may collapse like USSR but to the extent of damage might be very high. but Russians migrate to other places as some body knows more than 1 language. but how many of you knows a 2nd language. i just dreamed of this. thats all. There is nothing to worry about INDIA. we will help anybody who asks for assistance.
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BS...do not sit here and tell us that India...everyone is friends. There is extreme muslimism going on there and have been plenty of troubles and conflicts as a result:

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reports according to the India Army perhaps as many as 5,000 well trained Islamic militants in Pakistan or in the part of Kashmir controlled by Pakistan are ready to attempt infiltration into India.

If successful, it would definitely turn the low level fourth war between the two governments (since 1947) into a full scale conflict. The current Islamic uprising began in November 1989 and is supported by Tehran-Islamabad. Two other governments, Beijing-Riyadh are also ready to enter. During the mid-1980s the House of Saud purchased from China 50-60 intermediate range CSS-2 ballistic missiles that have a range of 2,500 miles (4,000 km), the purchase was mentioned by Reuters on Feb. 15, 2004 and several years previously by Proceedings magazine of the U.S. Naval Institute.

Beijing-Riyadh have said the warheads are conventional, but Riyadh has refused Washington permission to have the missiles inspected. There is a small nuclear warhead, I believe designated W-88, that could be on the missile. November last year China's Ambassador to India stated publicly northeast India-Arunachal Pradesh is Chinese territory. Delhi rejected his statement but in December China-Pakistan had joint maneuvers west of Kashmir.

This past February Pakistan President General Pervez Musharraf presented Tehran his offensive "Action Plan" and it was Musharraf in 1999 who planned and led the Kargil Probe that caught Delhi by surprise. Tehran held offensive maneuvers all over Iran nearly all of last year signaling their readiness to enter the war against the second most important enemy of the Jihad, the most important being the West, the Islamic world's main international rival. China played a leading role in arming Islamic countries with nuclear - ballistic missile technology, or sent it though Pyongyang, because Beijing knew if Iran and the Jihad are successful then three of China's rivals will become weaker, the West-India-Russia. September is the best month for war to begin in South Asia due to the end of the monsoon season.

India's General Officer Commanding in Chief, Northern Army Command Lieutenant-General H S Panag stated the militants will attempt to attack Indian army and police forces. "The strength of soldiers at sensitive positions along the frontiers with Pakistan has been increased to thwart any bid by militants to infiltrate into Kashmir."

He added, "...infiltration bids have registered a slight increase during the last eight months of this year as compared to the corresponding period last year." I suspect some of the Central Asia warlords in Uzbekistan-Afghanistan may also invade India through their historical invasion route the Khyber Pass. There are also Islamic Jihad units in Bangladesh who are waiting to join the war.
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bswaminathan
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what ever you said i happening outside India. if some on enters india they will be treated properly. take the case of kargil. its a big surprise to us. the war is done under supervision of current Pakistan military coup leader. if there is a successful infiltration then we will take suitable action. kargil war is a best example, even the deposed Pakistani leaders accepted this. we won't initiate war based on suspected action, if some one lands in our soil then sure there will be a action. so even as you said if anybody infiltrates here surely they have to pay a big price. what ever weapons we need we had them all already. recently INDIA successfully tested its locally made SAM.

chinese can say anything we don't care. if some one comes in they are sure chucked out.
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well my point was mainly to point out that India suffers a threat from Islamic extremist...regardless of where they come from. I was watching the news and they were saying that if there is any kind of terrorist activity in India it is due to this.
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darthvader
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darthvader wrote:
....was it as upsetting for you as when some INDIAN Hindu fanatics burnt an Australian Christian missionary (charity worker) and his young sons to death a few years ago?
w w w .s m h.c o m.au/news/World/Missionarys-killer-escapes-death-sentence/2005/05/19/1116361663964.html Now, that's what I call predjudice.


bswaminathan wrote:
........Thats not fanatic, but punishment for what he did, till today lot of guys paid by foreign christian religious aides to spread christianity in INDIA. They came here and convert innocent people to christianity......i don't think its wrong. its done to protect environment stability.


Hindus burning a charity worker to death along with his young sons not fanatical? Surely you wouldn't mean to write such fanatical statements, BS?

(Advice to BS: Read large text so that facts sink into your brain.)

"India yesterday conferred a prestigious civilian honour on Australian Gladys Staines, a social worker and widow of missionary Graham Staines who was killed by a Hindu mob along with their two sons in 1999.

.......The award is given for "distinguished service ... in any field", the home ministry said.

Mrs Staines and her husband Graham had spent more than 30 years working with leprosy patients in Baripada district in the eastern state of Orissa.

In January 1999 Graham and his two sons Philip, 10, and Timothy, eight, were burnt to death by a mob of Hindu fanatics who accused him of forcibly converting poor Hindus to Christianity.

The three were asleep in their jeep when the attack took place.

They tried to escape the flames but the mob - led by principal suspect Ravindra Pal, alias Dara Singh, and armed with axes - prevented them.

Despite the tragedy Mrs Staines stayed on in India with her daughter, overseeing the completion of a hospital for leprosy patients in Orissa..........


In September 2003 Singh and 17 others were sentenced to death by a local court. Immediately after the verdict Mrs Staines said she had forgiven the killers."

www.smh.com.au/news/World/India-honours-widow-of-Australian-missionary/2005/01/26/1106415668683.html

Behold the evil charity workers:



Old Christian charity worker and two young sons burnt alive by a Hindu mob = quite acceptable to BS Shocked

Anyway, its quite sad that India can be the source of such bad news from time to time. Such evil in response to decades of humanitarian work with lepers.

Hmmm......So, when is the next test trial for Syria's Russian supplied air-defenses? Be good to try a few practice drills. Maybe the Israelis could lend a hand?
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darthvader
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bswaminathan wrote:
(INDIA)....for us security is not a issue....


It isn’t? Could have fooled me. How come we hear of this sort if thing (below) rather frequently?

Read: www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2007/10/16/2003383406

A theatre audience in India is blown away.......October, 2007.

And, of course this incidents sadly happen quite regularly India (and this is just over the last 2 months) - security problems:

9/27/2007 Pulwama - 1 killed, 1 injured. The Mujahideen abduct and torture two civilians. One is then shot to death and the other released.

9/29/2007 Mangam - 1 killed. The Mujahideen abduct a police officer from a home and execute him.

10/1/2007 Doda - 1 killed, 2 injured. A cop is killed in a Mujahideen attack.

10/8/2007 Warpora-Sopore - 1 killed, 1 injured. A 6-year-old girl is killed when Muslim gunmen fire into a home.

10/11/2007 Baramulla - 2 killed. Two local soldiers are murdered in an ambush by the Mujahideen on their vehicle.

10/11/2007 Ajmer - 3 killed, 17 injured. Three people are killed in a suspected sectarian bombing of a Sufi shrine.

10/11/2007 Pattan - 7 killed, 8 injured. The Hizbul-Mujahideen bombs a canteen at an army base, killing five local soldiers and two civilians.

10/14/2007 Ludhiana - 7 killed, 30 injured. A 10-year-old child is among seven people killed when Islamic fundamentalists bomb a movie theater.

10/15/2007 Chandigam - 1 killed, 2 injured. Muslim radicals kill a policeman inside his home. An elderly woman and 10-year-old girl are shot in a separate attack.

10/26/2007 Baramulla - 1 killed. A 25-year-old man is shot to death by Islamic terrorists.

11/9/2007 Pattan - 4 killed, 3 injured. Lashkar-e-Toiba militants gun down four local soldiers.

11/11/2007 Sopore - 1 killed. Islamic militants ambush a road-opening ceremony, killing a security guard.

11/20/2007 Kulgam - 1 killed. A baker is abducted and murdered by the Mujahideen.

11/20/2007 Baramulla - 2 killed. The Mujahideen shoot two people to death in separate attacks.

11/21/2007 Rajouri - 1 killed. A civilian is abducted and beheaded by the Mujahideen, who also torch his house.

w w w.thereligionofpeace. c o m/

My gosh, if I saw this on the news all the time instead of USA news, I would think India was descending into chaos!

So, BS, what's your big deal about USA, when you have your own perpetual domestic + cross-border security issues to worry about? Plus, also, sadly, the great poverty and disease problems which are still part of your developing country in the 21st century? Anyway, with all these problems, where do you find the time to criticize other nations’ policies and cultural attitudes? You should be lobbying your government to spend less on defense and do more for the poorer Indian people (like the US government does in some small ways for India – read here:

w w w. usaid.g o v/in/about_usaid/success_stories.htm ).

By the way, how much money did Russia make out of selling dud air-defenses to Syria?
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