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maarten1986
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 Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:27 am Post subject: Can customs officers still check if you registered? |
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Since it will be rather difficult for me to register, I'm thinking about not doing it at all... I just hope I don't get stopped by the police.
But I read in the Visa Registration Guide that I might encounter some problems at Customs control:
| Quote: | Problem Situation - Customs.
If, for example, you haven't registered your visa and were not stopped by police or were stopped but always paid the bribes, you might have problems with customs or passport control officials. When my friend came to me once a few years ago, she didn't register her visa (we thought it'd be interesting to see what happens). She was never checked or stopped by police, so that was ok. But when she was leaving Russia, she was stopped by customs control and they wanted to fine her for not having the registration (the maximum fine is, according to the Fed. Law #195-FZ, Article 18.3 is $30 US). So the immigration officer told her something like: "money, money... credit cards.... cheques... no registration... pay pay..." (he obviously had problems articulating English words). She said that she has a registration and showed him some paper attached to her passport (there are many little papers). He asked money again, but she showed the paper again. So, he thought that she was silly or maybe he didn't want to bother (especially that she said she didn't have money), so he didn't fine her.
My advice if you're in such situation: 1) play silly, show some papers (as many as you can find) and make it seem as if you think that's the registration; 2) show you don't have any money, even credit cards. Success isn't guaranteed, but you increase the chance that the immigration officer will not want to involve and will switch to someone else.
HOWEVER, I strongly recommend you not to lead the situation to such extremes and to register your visa, and play according to the rules. Then everything will be fine. |
My question is, does this still apply? How will the Costum officials be able to check if I registered? In the new system you should give the talon to your landlord BEFORE you leave Russia, right? Or are they going to cross-check my visa against a database?
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UsualSuspect
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Location: The Land of Oz
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It's Border Security that'll grab your goolies and twist them if they so desire. The fact that you haven't registered will be blatantly obvious on your immigration card (as a total foreigner, I'm assuming).
What's a talon when it's at home??
If you have a private visa that requires a LandLords permission or whatever, save yourself the strain and book a couple of hours to get it registered. It is generally registered for the entire length of the visa. Tourist/Business visas are handled differently.
A bit more background on your visa type and such would help.
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maarten1986
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| I have a tourist visa, and I'm staying 5 days in Moscow and 5 in Saint Petersburg... |
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UsualSuspect
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Location: The Land of Oz
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maarten,
Hmm. Tourist Visa. Where are you staying then? Even one night in a hotel will get you a registration stamp. I had only one in my passport for one day and yet was there (Russia) for about 2 weeks. That's really all you need. Play stunned mullet and never flash cash, even to the cops. The company who provided you with your invitation should be able to handle registration unless you know it's going to be a complete waste of time.
Other than that, you have to make your choice and take your chances.
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maarten1986
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Thanks for the reply! I guess I'll book a hotel for one night then  ... |
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tripled
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Location: Kendal, Cumbria & Dimitrovgrad
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| Trust me if you ever want to go back to Russia then don't take chances with visa registration, if your recorded twice or more for registration offences you will be black listed and you have no rights to appeal or do anything about it, just wait 5 years or until their laws change before they let you back in !! Make the effort to register the visa, its a pain in the arse system but a bigger pain if you not alllowed back there.r |
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