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seabrig
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 Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:17 pm Post subject: buying power. |
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| I've read lots of stats on what people make and where they live. But what I cant find is how much do things cost outside the tourist areas. say like a movie, or a dinner out. How much does one spend for a weeks worth of food? maybe even a car? everyone wants to tell me what it costs in dollars. I'd rather know what things cost in rubles. can anyone tell me that? |
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overseas_expat
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Location: Moscow
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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What kind of food? What kind of car? I expect you could exist on boiled potatoes and sausage for pretty cheap. Ditto a beat up smoke-belching 6th hand Lada.
Not that I wouldn't like to help, but your questions are too vague to answer. Moscow is expensive--period. St. Petersburg is cheaper. The rest of Russia is really cheap. But the problem here is the same as anywhere else. If you live out in the boondocks where the living is cheap, wages are the pits.
The ruble-to-dollar exchange is listed here on the home page. We usually use 30 to 1 because it's easy to calculate.
Would you like to rephrase your questions? |
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MrSpice
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Specific questions:
1) How much does it cost in rubles to visit a local movie theater in ST. Petersburg (to see a new Russian movie that just came out)?
2) How much does it cost to eat at a local average-priced restaurant not geared towards tousts in St. Petersburg (i.e., where waiters don't speak English and the one that's located away from the center? |
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Camrade
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2MrSpice
1) It depends on the time of coming to the cinema  In the morning it can cost ~70 - 100 rubles, in the evening you'll have to pay 200 rubles.
2)In such restaurents food can cost also from 100 rubles to 250, it depends on a place also... In "Shaverma's" you can kill your hunger for 50 rubles, in some pubs or cafe's for "local" people it's more expensive but anyway prices are quite user-friendly
PS: My information was concerning St.Petersburg, in Moscow it can be more expensive |
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cyndy22
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| This topic question I think is very useful for travelers going to Russia. One other thing travelers need to keep in mind is that fees are typically higher for tourists visiting museums, theatre etc. than for Russians. This makes sense to me because Russians earn far less than most tourists. I have no problem with this difference. |
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Camrade
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| Quote: | | This makes sense to me because Russians earn far less than most tourists. I have no problem with this difference. |
That's a typical for european cities as I remember... It's just a politics of ministry of culture, to make cultural facilities available for absolutely every russian... For students Hermitage for example is absolutely free, so I can visit it everyday :) |
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vorteks
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a good range of examples of prices in Moscow. Those prices date from last year
http://www.cheap-moscow.com/prices.htm
Last edited by vorteks on Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:39 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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MrSpice
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| You really like to justify pretty much anything they do in Russia. According to you, Russians are the most wonderful people, they are so wise in discriminating people just because they don't speak the language. They can charge more money for anything - because Russians are so poor. But think for a second, why this is not the case in any civilized country, including developing countries? This is a form of discrimination. Imagine that massachussets establishements would start charging people from Quebec that speak French? Or, imagine they would be charged less since average income in Quebec is lower. They charge foreigners more not because it's a way to help the locals, but because they use the fact that foreigners can't speak the langauge so they can charge more and take advantage of tourists that cannot defend themselves and demand better and cheaper service. |
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Camrade
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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2MrSpice
It was adressed to me?
If so, I'd like to tell quite important thing: I don't think that Russians are the most wonderful people, I am just trying to tell you the facts... If you feel discriminated so you know, nobody insist on your arrival to Russia It's like how one of my friends used to say when someone was grumbling, "Chill out, and enjoy the life" |
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MrSpice
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Comrade - it was addressed to Cyndy, not you |
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Camrade
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2MrSpice
ooops, sorry
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