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Alexeis Zemanova Frequent Guest
Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 61
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:16 pm Post subject: History, Politics and NWO |
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topic split from racism thread
WRONG I SAID USSR NOT RUSSIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS TRUE IN RUSSIA BUT THE MAJORITY OF USSR ARE MUSLIMS!!!
(look it up-it is by a large majority- most Christians in that area have Muslim family members anyway)
RUSSIA HAS BEEN HELD BY THE MONGELS MORE THAN ANY OTHER PEOPLE AND THEY WERE MUSLIMS!!!
RUSSIA IS CHRISTIAN, MUSLIM AND JEWISH
THERES EVEN ONE OR TWO BUDDHIST COMMUNITIES
so
THE MAJORITY IN RUSSIA(NOT USSR) IS CHRISTIAN
WHICH QUITE FRANKLY IS A VERY GOOD THING!!  |
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brandalpayne11 Talk Show Host
Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 245 Location: NC, US
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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you are too sporatic. first its the evil blacks, now its the evil whites.
In the words of a famous bloody lip "Can't we all just get along?" |
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Camrade VIP
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 516 Location: Санкт-Петербург
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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2Alexeis Zemanova
Где такую классную дурь брали девушка?
передавайте косяк, мы тоже хотим оценить....
LOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!! я так давно не смеялся
That's f**king extremely funny =))) |
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markhagelin Talk Show Host
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 208 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Alexeis Zemanova wrote: | WRONG I SAID USSR NOT RUSSIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS TRUE IN RUSSIA BUT THE MAJORITY OF USSR ARE MUSLIMS!!!
(look it up-it is by a large majority- most Christians in that area have Muslim family members anyway)
RUSSIA HAS BEEN HELD BY THE MONGELS MORE THAN ANY OTHER PEOPLE AND THEY WERE MUSLIMS!!!
RUSSIA IS CHRISTIAN, MUSLIM AND JEWISH
THERES EVEN ONE OR TWO BUDDHIST COMMUNITIES
so
THE MAJORITY IN RUSSIA(NOT USSR) IS CHRISTIAN
WHICH QUITE FRANKLY IS A VERY GOOD THING!!  |
Wrong. The USSR et al was never held by the Mongols for an extensive period of time. Read "the Primary Chronicle", aka "The Tale of the Bygone Years"
The Khazars which were a mixture of Turk and Jew. ruled much of the FSU and they converted to Judaism. Tshagataish was the language of the Khazar Jews. Tshagataish is now called Krimchak after the people with the same name. Krimchak is the language of the Krimchak Jews, a very small Jewish group on the Crimean peninsula.
The Krimchak Jews settled in Crimea probably in the 16th century and spoke a variant of Crimean Tatar but used the Hebrew alphabet. Their origins are unclear. Some think they were converted to Judaism during the Khazar Empire. Others think they are the remaining descendants of the Khazars.
Krimchak is considered to be a form of Judeo-Crimean Tatar
Judeo-Crimean Tatar is or was spoken in Georgia, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan.
Judeo-Crimean Tatar is similar to other Ponto-Caspian languages. Karachay-Balkar, Kumyk, Karaim, Pecheneg (extinct), Cuman (extinct). Cuman has been identified in what has been called the Codex Cumanicus.
Karaim is a close language to the original Khazar language and is still spoken by Karaite Jews in Lithuania and Ukraine.
What is interesting to note is that none of the writings of the people who had met the Khazars indicate a recognition of their language as Turkic. They supposedly spoke Turk, used Turk words, but used a Hebrew alphabet. Actually the alphabet probably was Aramaic, the root for both the Hebrew and Arabic languages.
We have limited writing of the Khazars using Hebrew. Perhaps with the forced conversion to Christianity also came a forced conversion to the Old Slavic or Cyrillic alphabet.
In 988 AD Christian monks converted Russia to Christinity. This is also when St Cyril introduced [for lack of a better term] the Cyrillic alphabet.
Russia and the FSU were never over run by the Muslims. The Khazars made sure of that.
Mark |
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Alexeis Zemanova Frequent Guest
Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 61
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Not quite.
Its never been 'evil' whites..
European whites are different to American white; who were the people I was taking to task.
Being Russian, of course I've got plenty to say about them. We understand the nature of the American beast. They deemed us all as 'Commie bastards' and urged and funded people to bring us down. And you wish for us to get along? Dream on..(I only ever hear that from half-American, half-Russian 'fakers')
I have never disputed the fact that the American Government and the Whites in America are greatly misguided and two-faced.
I would much rather speak to any American ethnic minority over the sheep guiding redneck capitalist yanks any day of the week.
What about Black Arabs in Africa? I dont see many people quick to take them on.. or persecuting them..so to say all blacks are persecuted is also false.
Christians have their place, as do Muslims and Blacks and Chinese etc..
Most of the violence in the world occurs within the same races, and other stories are hyped up by the media. They focus on violence in small states and ignore mass tragedies going on all over the world. Even if Sudan is 'genocide' its still nothing compared to what was done to the NATIVE AMERICANS or the ABORIGINIES OF AUSTRALIA in the past..
USA HIDES AND FINDS HER OWN AGENDA..
Including trying to interfere in Russian affairs.. |
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Camrade VIP
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 516 Location: Санкт-Петербург
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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2Alexeis Zemanova
для тех кто в танке повторяю вопрос: где дурь брала?
я уже молчу об элементарных знаниях истории и политики... |
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markhagelin Talk Show Host
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 208 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Alexeis Zemanova wrote: | Not quite.
Its never been 'evil' whites..
European whites are different to American white; who were the people I was taking to task.
Being Russian, of course I've got plenty to say about them. We understand the nature of the American beast. They deemed us all as 'Commie bastards' and urged and funded people to bring us down. And you wish for us to get along? Dream on..(I only ever hear that from half-American, half-Russian 'fakers')
I have never disputed the fact that the American Government and the Whites in America are greatly misguided and two-faced.
I would much rather speak to any American ethnic minority over the sheep guiding redneck capitalist yanks any day of the week.
What about Black Arabs in Africa? I dont see many people quick to take them on.. or persecuting them..so to say all blacks are persecuted is also false.
Christians have their place, as do Muslims and Blacks and Chinese etc..
Most of the violence in the world occurs within the same races, and other stories are hyped up by the media. They focus on violence in small states and ignore mass tragedies going on all over the world. Even if Sudan is 'genocide' its still nothing compared to what was done to the NATIVE AMERICANS or the ABORIGINIES OF AUSTRALIA in the past..
USA HIDES AND FINDS HER OWN AGENDA..
Including trying to interfere in Russian affairs.. |
It is the American government not the American people who your real beef is with. Bush II and his New World Order cronies..
They get into power and manipulate everything, from the government itself to the newsmedia. Their interlocking directorates ensure that there is some level of consistency within.
The major networks promote the "partyline". This partyline is that of the New World Order. Look at how Bush won, not by an intellectual debate [he doesn't seem to have too many brains] but by playing on American's fears about safety.
The Council on Foreign Relations, Tri-Lateral Commission, Skull & Bones, the Bilderbergers, all of the Illuminati who think they know what's best for everyone. They either own/control the banks of just about every country, or they control the natural resources.
As closed an economy as the USSR had, they had to cause its collapse in order to get in there to control it. The Arab nations, China, and Korea are next.
They want a global government at any price.
They fund both sides of conflicts knowing that people will give up freedom to fell more secure. Basically, they micro-manage conflicts and have numeorous solutions, any of which they are ready to impliment.
The NWO fosters a "divide and conquer" philosophy. Keep the people fighting amoungst themselves and they will never know or suspect what is going on behind the scenes.
I am not two-faced. Neither are most Americans. We have been fed a bunch of b*** s*** and most still tend to believe it.
It is not an American agenda, it is a New World Order agenda and the American people like everyone else is caught in the middle of it.
The NWO funds the hate groups. And abortions and feminists and anti-gun groups. Why?
The less people there are, who are unarmed, the easier it will be to take over the worl with the least amount of force.
The NWO through Bush II using Americans to get the Iraqi oil. We don't know how much oil has been stolen via Saudia Arabia and/or Kuwait.
Bush II used terrorism and the threat of terrorism as an excuse to depose Saddam only to be able to get in there for the oil.
There are possibly some Russian/FSU leaders in cohorts with the NWO. I doubt Americans poisoned Yushchenko.
Does Putin have NWO ties? Who knows, I don't. Maybe he has his own agenda. It is harder in the FSU countries to know who has NWO ties. Probably the banks and perhaps the mafia/mob.
The NWO will seek industry leaders or bankers to join it.
Money and natural resources, the 2 things the NWO wants control of. Controling those allows the NWO to control any nation it wants, from behind the scenes as a "shadow government".
When we argue over race et al we are doing their work for them.
There is only one race, it's called the HUMAN RACE and you either join it or you leave it. Rascism is a learned response.
Mark |
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Alexeis Zemanova Frequent Guest
Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 61
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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GOOD HISTORY..
I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THE EXISTENCE OF KHAZARS, THESE DAYS MANY ARE TRYING TO
REWRITE HISTORY AND CLAIM THEY NEVER EXISTED..
LET ME LET YOU IN ON A SECRET, THERE ARE FACTIONS WITHIN RUSSIA WHICH AGREE WITH WHAT YOU
SAY THAT THE MONGOLS WERENT AROUND FOR 600 YEARS AS CLAIMED BUT FAR LESS. THESE PEOPLE ARE
USUALLY THE ONES WHO DENOUNCE THEIR SLAVIC ORIGINS AND CLAIM SOLE SCANDINAVIAN HERITAGE.
THE EFFECT OF THE MONGOLS IS UNQUESTIONABLE THOUGH, THE GOLDERN HORDE AND EVEN TAMERLANE
HAD A LOT OF INFLUENCE IN THE AREA AS THEY WERE SO REVERED AND FEARED..
CERTAINLY MOST FROM THE SOUTHEAST AND UKRAINE REGION REALIZE THIS.
also a brief summary(SOURCE MICROSOFT ENCARTA 2003)
FORMER USSR:
TURKMENISTAN=PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM
KAZACKSTAN=PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM
UZBEKISTAN=PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM
TAJIKSTAN=PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM
AZERBAIJAN=PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM
GEORGIA=50/50
KYRGYSTAN=50/50
ARMENIA50/50
RUSSIA:
Dagestan
Chechnya
Inguishetia etc.etc.
PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM
Been to the certain Siberian Oblasts WHERE EVERYBODY IS MUSLIM? Granted there might only be
a handful of people in some of them, but thats still the case and has been for centuries..
In these places even the Christians still look like Muslims..
THE KHAZARS SAVED EUROPE IF THEY SAVED ANYBODY. WITHIN CENTRAL ASIA AND SIBERIA THEY HELD
NO CONTROL WHATSOEVER, ALTHOUGH ALL THE PEOPLES APPEARANCES SORT OF BLENDED INTO EACH OTHER
KHAZARS AND CAUCASIANS ARE SAID TO HAVE LOOKED NO DIFFERENT
PS I HAVE KHAZAR/ASHKENAZIM RECORDED WITHIN MY FAMILY TREE. |
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Camrade VIP
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 516 Location: Санкт-Петербург
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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You live in Stavropol and don't understand my questions or don't want to understand..... or Stavropol is somewhere in Sudan
IMHO, this topic is nonsense.... And stop jeer at russian history you know neither history nor worldwide political situation.
I'd better leave this conversation.... |
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Dr Fauste Site Admin
Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Country Name Total Population Muslims Percentage Number of Muslims
Azerbaijan 7,676,953 93.4 7,170,274
Georgia 5,219,810 11 574,179
Kyrgyzstan 4,529,648 76.1 3,447,062
Russia 148,178,487 18 26,672,127
Tajikistan 5,916,373 85 5,028,917
Turkmenistan 4,149,283 87 3,609,876
Uzbekistan 23,418,381 88 20,608,175
United States 266,476,278 3.75 9,992,860
This table below shows the growth of Islam:
North America (1989-1998) 25%
Africa 2.15%
Asia 12.57%
Europe 142.35%
Latin America -4.73%
Australia 257.01%
Among every four humans in the world, one of them is Muslim. Muslims have increased by over 235 percent in the last fifty years up to nearly 1.6 billion. By comparison, Christians have increased by only 47 percent, Hinduism, 117 percent, and Buddhism by 63 percent. Islam is the second largest religious group in France, Great Britain and USA (Muslims in USA are 10 millions and Jews are 6 millions).
Not bad, but you are wrong about Georgia and I am sure that Armenia is the same.
Mark, her argument is this. American government has a hidden agenda. This can be confirmed with CIA action in El Salvador, Hunting of Che Guevera, Sponsorship of Bin Laden in Afghanistan, Sponsorship of Noreiga and so on. American people elected the government that does these actions, thus Americans are just as responsible for these events.
But USSR is the country that invaded Afghanstan, Sponsored Che and Castro, Sponsored Rebels in El Salvador, and soon. USSR government also had a hidden agenda. USSR government was brought to power by the Russian people.
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Alexeis Zemanova Frequent Guest
Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 61
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:07 am Post subject: |
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MARK/DR FAUSTE BY YOUR WRITINGS THERE YOU HAVE FINALLY PROVED YOUR INTELLIGENCE. YOU WERE NITPICKING ON SMALLER ISSUES. IT TOOK YOU A WHILE BUT YOU GOT THERE IN THE END. WELL DONE. I'LL GET BACK TO YOU SOON..
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Alexeis Zemanova Frequent Guest
Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 61
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:16 am Post subject: |
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CAMRADE
I WAS SPEAKING TO MARK AT THE TIME AND WAS GETTING ROUND TO YOU.
I SAID I LIVED IN WESTERN EUROPE DIDNT I???
STAVRAPOL IS JUST WHERE I ORIGINALLY COME FROM
CAMRADE GET ON THE WEB CAM AND WE WILL BOTH SEE WHO LOOKS MORE 'RUSSIAN'
YOU KNOW ITS YOU THAT LOOKS THE AFRICAN
I'M GLAD I HIT A NERVE THOUGH...
BUT I GUESS YOU ARE RIGHT, YOU AND I HAD BETTER LEAVE IT..
ITS NOT WORTH EITHER OF OUR'S TIME |
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Dr Fauste Site Admin
Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 654
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Alexeis/Jeremy
| Quote: | | MARK/DR FAUSTE BY YOUR WRITINGS THERE YOU HAVE FINALLY PROVED YOUR INTELLIGENCE. YOU WERE NITPICKING ON SMALLER ISSUES. IT TOOK YOU A WHILE BUT YOU GOT THERE IN THE END. WELL DONE. I'LL GET BACK TO YOU SOON.. |
I understand your point, but you remind many Russians I have met that is quick to point the blame on other nations, but your country was participant in this situation also. Both the USA and USSR government have done horrible acts in the world for power. It is funny to watch both nations blame each other for all the problems.
Are you the Russian lady in Chicago with the shaved head in Brat 2? LOL |
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brandalpayne11 Talk Show Host
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| Alexeis Zemanova wrote: | Not quite.
Its never been 'evil' whites..
European whites are different to American white; who were the people I was taking to task.
Being Russian, of course I've got plenty to say about them. We understand the nature of the American beast. They deemed us all as 'Commie bastards' and urged and funded people to bring us down. And you wish for us to get along? Dream on..(I only ever hear that from half-American, half-Russian 'fakers')
I have never disputed the fact that the American Government and the Whites in America are greatly misguided and two-faced.
I would much rather speak to any American ethnic minority over the sheep guiding redneck capitalist yanks any day of the week.
What about Black Arabs in Africa? I dont see many people quick to take them on.. or persecuting them..so to say all blacks are persecuted is also false.
Christians have their place, as do Muslims and Blacks and Chinese etc..
Most of the violence in the world occurs within the same races, and other stories are hyped up by the media. They focus on violence in small states and ignore mass tragedies going on all over the world. Even if Sudan is 'genocide' its still nothing compared to what was done to the NATIVE AMERICANS or the ABORIGINIES OF AUSTRALIA in the past..
USA HIDES AND FINDS HER OWN AGENDA..
Including trying to interfere in Russian affairs.. |
Have you ever encounterd " the little scrawny guy in the bar that tries to pick a fight w/everyone to prove himself because he never has gotten any respect" Now there is a reason for that, but thats a story for another day. The point that I am trying to make is you must be @ peace with yourself beforee u can talk about others.
You perfect Russia, then u can talk about Russia, Britian, Africa ect...If u notice I have NEVER talked about anyone elses country because I don't know what makes them click.
You may think you know us but to you I say "Know Thyself" |
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Dr Fauste Site Admin
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Ignore her. She is one of these nationalist that blame USA for all the world problems, but cannot accept responsibility herself.
She is correct, the USA government has done very evil things, but many nations have done these also including Russia. But she cannot accept that her own nation is at fault also, but a typical nationalist, just blames others.Pathetic. |
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