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Rimski · Frequent Guest Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 24

The vietnam war was a useless agression from the USA against the Vietnam. The US lost the war and no objective was achieve but more than 2 millons vietnamies died under the 7 millions tones of american bombs (according to western sources). 2 millons people died for nothing. Only because US dislike communism!

Do you know that there is, in Washington DC, a famous wall with the names of the 58195 american soldiers died in the war ? photo of the wall: http://www.vietvet.org/thewall.htm

This wall is a part of The Vietnam Veterans Memeorial dedicated to honoring the american soldiers... sorry the criminals! died in Vietnam. Have a look and see how America is proud of its crimes: http://thewall-usa.com/

jo jo 7

european · Frequent Guest Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 25

Here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan
the Russian war in Afghanistan is called the equivalent of the US war in Vietnam. And also in Russia there are monuments about those who were killed in Afghanistan. Are those Russians criminals?
I think most soldiers who were sent to those places are victims of their governments. They tried to stay alive. Maybe some fanatics did too much and their acts can be called criminal (e.g. Mi Lai).
However the way in which Americans are always proud of those 'who serve their country' is also a bit strange. Many of those are poor and are lured into the army because it offers a job and schooling. When they die it is a consequence of taking that job. No reason to be proud of.

jo jo 7 · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject:

Also, those Vietnam Vets were drafted, something that those young men could not run from, you had to serve regardless if you wanted to or not..you young men know this...how many of you really wanted to go to war or go into the army? If those young men here in America decided to run to another country during the drafts and Vietnam, they were considered draft dodgers and disrespected..some of these young men who survived that useless war are dealing with unexplained diseases from being exposed to certain chemicals or shots that soldiers received when they went to war...(agent orange) blindness, amputated legs, body parts that were blown off...all because they had too...I agree, most of this is the result of our governments...regardless of what country's military men go into...it is glamorized to reel you in...promises of stature...ect..ect...

Rimski....why don't you go way back and look at all the wars our world has gone through...there were other senseless wars hundreds or thousands of years ago...but to call American soldiers criminals really pisses me off...some things cannot be helped or avoided...you call a young American wife and mother husband who was killed in Iraq (or Vietnam wives) a criminal, who has left behind children and you better back yourself up for a verbal backlashing and a major ass beating from her.

darthvader · WayToRussified Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 363

MelissaCato · Lounge Lizard Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 167

Yes victims of our Government. We are all slave victims in the USA since Woodrow Wilson allowed the Federal Bankers to ruin us with the FED Act of 1913, 5 months after they sunk the Titanic with everyone who opposed the FED. We are a few months away from the end of America and our beautiful Constitution. Look at all the victims on the Titanic, and people still don't believe the truth about that. It's quite sickening because this isn't America as our Founders intended for us. JFK knew the truth and tried to warn us .. Ron Paul is our only Hope now. Phucken Bastards, they have almost every American thinking we are a Democracy, in fact America is a Republic ... that is a bloody lie and people are too stupid to even know what the truth is and it's in the Constitution and Deck of Independence for Christ sake. Did anyone watch the Pope yesterday ?? Did anyone notice the Flag of our Republic in the back round, and then the Marine Hymn of our Republic ? Right after the Media ended the white house speeches and Hymn.. the scammers said American Democracy 3 times in a row to say how great we are... DUH !!!!! They just proved on National TV they are all full of CRAP !!!! I agree with the rest of the world America is too stupid to know truth even in front of yo faces !!!! Thanks to the years of corrupt CFR and Committee of 300. Phucken Bastards.

MelissaCato · Lounge Lizard Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 167

I guess ist's safe to say now due to what we're up against, Woodrow Wilson will be on the Historical Record for the initiation of the down Fall of the United States and Constitutional Republic. Sad

darthvader · WayToRussified Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 363

Hmmm.........Melissa.........

Rimski, would you mind elaborating "what is it", the imperfect West is worse than? Life ain't been such a barrel of laughs elsewhere either over let's say, the last 100 years.......Yes, I know the Communist utopia was damn cool, Stalin and Mao were absolutely charming, having the most lovely policies. However, surely all the "non-West" isn't/wasn't all as fantastic as this?

Rimski · Frequent Guest Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 24

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danbrew · Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: