| Who will YOU vote for at the next Russian election? |
| Putin / United Russia |
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43% |
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| Communist Party (KPRF) |
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18% |
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| Liberalno-Demokraticeskaja |
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18% |
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| Rodina |
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6% |
[ 1 ] |
| Yabloko |
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12% |
[ 2 ] |
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JNH_2005 Frequent Guest
Joined: 07 May 2005 Posts: 35 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 5:55 am Post subject: Who will YOU vote for at the next Russian election? |
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Katyara Lounge Lizard
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 124 Location: Russia, Sakhalin island, Korsakov!
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| i think i will vote for him unless something changes my mind... i have about three years to think... |
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wavetossed WayToRussified
Joined: 27 Jun 2004 Posts: 339
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Why does the first choice on the poll have Putin's name beside it when he has said that he will not run in the next election? In fact, under the law he cannot run in the next election and he recently confirmed that he will not seek changes in this law.
Also, why is Edinaya Rossiya at the top of the poll.
And why such a silly question? Since it will be years before the election, wouldn't it be more sensible to ask "Which party's policies are you likely to support in the next election?". At least that way, people think about the policies and parties and ask themselves what they "support". |
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Camrade VIP
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 516 Location: Санкт-Петербург
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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I'll vote for Putin probably
but by next election my views can change  |
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overseas_expat VIP
Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 741 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| None of the above. |
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Mogsfan WayToRussified
Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 490
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Why does the first choice on the poll have Putin's name beside it when he has said that he will not run in the next election? In fact, under the law he cannot run in the next election and he recently confirmed that he will not seek changes in this law. |
Does it matter? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a theory that Putin will run for Prime Minister and have some puppet at the position of President? |
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e VIP
Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 654
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Liberalno-Demokraticeskaja
Rodina
Yabloko
For those of of us uniniatiated with Russian politics, can someone explain (preferably a Russian) who are these parties, who are their leaders, what ideals do they stand for, and how does the Russian electoral system work?  |
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Mogsfan WayToRussified
Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 490
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 7:21 am Post subject: |
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That's a good question, "E." I found a page I thought was useful for political information especially providing information on the parties.
Therefore, my questions:
1) how informative and relevant do Russians find this page?
2) do you know of a similar or better source of information? (please post it)
URLS:
http://www.russiaprofile.org/resources/index.wbp
http://www.russiaprofile.org/resources/political/index.wbp
Last question:
I perceived e's parties he mentioned this way:
1) nationalistic - this was Zhirinovsky's party - not sure how much influence he has now, though
2) Rodina - never heard of them until I read the description on above web page - I learned they are a nationalist-type party
3) Yabloko - this is/was Gregory Yavlinksy's party but if I'm not mistaken, he lost a lot of support in the past because of the idea for many Russians he is connected to the past elites, Anatoly Chubais, Yegor Gaidar, and many of the other political cronies from the past decade or so.
Just wondering what Russians think of my comments and if you have anything to add, please do. Thanks. |
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JNH_2005 Frequent Guest
Joined: 07 May 2005 Posts: 35 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| wavetossed wrote: | | Why does the first choice on the poll have Putin's name beside it when he has said that he will not run in the next election? . |
Because I think a lot of Russians vote for United Russia only because of Putin.
If Putin does follow the laws and quits before the next election (and I don't think he will), the current high popularity of United Russia will decrease.
The 2 term limit is a good thing. But that means that next time, it could be far less clear who will be Putin's successor, hence this question. |
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renwan Talk Show Host
Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 204
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 1:01 am Post subject: |
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None, they are all blood suckers who only speak in name of the rich.
AKM should takeover the corrupt government we have. |
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Intourist Talk Show Host
Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 245 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| wavetossed wrote: | Why does the first choice on the poll have Putin's name beside it when he has said that he will not run in the next election? In fact, under the law he cannot run in the next election and he recently confirmed that he will not seek changes in this law.
Also, why is Edinaya Rossiya at the top of the poll.
And why such a silly question? Since it will be years before the election, wouldn't it be more sensible to ask "Which party's policies are you likely to support in the next election?". At least that way, people think about the policies and parties and ask themselves what they "support". |
Wave,
Do you really think he's gonna stick to that ? You're obviously not over here right now where there has recently been much talk about how to keep Putin in power. AS Mogsfan pointed out, one solution has been to move Putin down to Prime Minister and change the constituion to make the President's office largely symbolic. I just don't see why you seem hellbent on taking him for his word when what he's said publicly in the past (Media, Yukos, etc) seems to completely differ from what he actually does.
And it's not a silly question, in my opinion. Here, the question is ALWAYS rather accute any time you want. Politics here are a constant struggle for power here, as they are everywhere, but as with so many other aspects of life in Russia, things here are much more blatant and obvious, making discussion more prevalent.
Regards,
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Intourist Talk Show Host
Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 245 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| e wrote: | Liberalno-Demokraticeskaja
Rodina
Yabloko
For those of of us uniniatiated with Russian politics, can someone explain (preferably a Russian) who are these parties, who are their leaders, what ideals do they stand for, and how does the Russian electoral system work?  |
Yabloko is Grigory Yavlinsky's party. It had at one point been a popular choice among the "thinking" West-leaning classes. Yavlinsky appeared to have "principles" that he held steadfast to (such as not bargaining with the current powers that be to quiet him), but that tactic ultimately backfired reducing him to nothing more than a sidelines player with little over 5% of the vote. He seems to be a highly intelligent economist, but lacking somehwat in the department of masculine charisma which many Russians appreciate. He's also Jewish, which would be a first, here, and a big one at that considering still prevalent feelings of anti-semitism.
Liberal Democrats -A bit tongue in cheek of a name, if you ask me, IS Zhirinovsky's party. He's still there and still getting attention. He's never been more than a Kremlin puppet, however. Rumor has it his vote has always been for sale (or was - I'm not sure he has a choice now). He claims to be a 'nationalist' party, but few view him as more than a Kremlin mouthpiece to test out unpopular or radical ideas.
Rodina's largely regarded as also being a Kremlin tool.
One party that was missed, that has some PR problems, but would be an interesting choice, in my opinion (and that's interesting, not necessarily good) is UNion of Right Forces. These are the reform-oriented people. You either like 'em or hate 'em. A lot have been caught up in some of the corruption scndals of yester-decade (Chubais and his tainted auctions, Nemtsov and bribes outside the Whitehouse). Are they a necessary evil, corrupt or genuinely interested in economic reform ? Up to you to decide. |
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e VIP
Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 654
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Very informative! Thanks!
| Quote: | | He's also Jewish, which would be a first, here |
Vic corrected me on this one: Lenin, Trotsky, and possibly Stalin were Jews.  |
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Vic Talk Show Host
Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 298 Location: Moscow, Russian Federation
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Putin.
I will be very very very suprised if he stays in for the next term. He has made it part of his platform that he abides by the constituion and a 180 like that will not go unnoticed in his popularity rating which has dipped after the pension reforms (which were not COMPLETELY his fault either) He will not do the prime minister trick either because everyone understands what that means. Someone on his side will most likely will probably be the next president as Putin will support him publicly (something that is NOT forbidden by the constitution btw, if he says "Mr.X is my personal choice for president...blah blah blah" as long as he does not SAY to VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE. That will be that, or Putin may come back in the 2012 elections. The constitution forbids two CONSECUTIVE terms, not two terms IN TOTAL.
Rodina - nationalistic party which is a little too extreme for me.
Communists - a bunch of sellouts which turn everything into a political event.
LDRP - Zhirinovsky is a clown, the only deputy of the State Duma that was every suspended for behaviour in the history of the Russian Federation and the Soviet Union and the Russian Empire. (He happened to get in a fist-fight with the head of Rodina a month ago, nobody really won the fight as they were broken up...but some professional boxers analysed it and said that they had really good technique considering the circumstances! Well, he was suspended for 1 month. He gets votes because he is a clown and puts on a good show.
SPS/Yabloko - Bunch of oligarhs bundled up together; presidential campaign video (Irina Khakamada) showed her flying in a private jet chatting with Nemtsov didn't fly with the public either.
United Russia - Kremlin Party, too large for their own good, have 50% of the State Duma.
Against all - well...it is an option.
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Jutrzenkapolska VIP
Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 534
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Next US election, I'm voting for the Green Party.People say "Why would you want to do that?!" but what the hell good is a democracy anyway if you can't vote for the candidate you want? And the two major parties aren't it.Or here's an idea, buy the cheapest apartment in Pennsylvania (where votes actually make a difference) , list myself and eight other New Yorkers as residents, register ourselves and try to swing every election.
By 2006 I'll be able to vote for in the Sejm elections (assuming they will ever be held ) and by 2010, I'll be able to cast an absentee ballot for Polish Presidential Elections.I don't know who I'll be voting for but it won't be the Communists.
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