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init6
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Joined: 01 Jun 2005
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Location: Москва, Россия
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 Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:08 am Post subject: Bombings? |
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First, let me admit that I'm drunk while posting (DWP):
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/06/12/groznytrain.shtml
Is this peanuts? No one cares? I have the fortunate situation of friends who care about me bringing this up in the bar room to me tonight.
"Hey Casey," they say, "did you not hear about the bomb blast south of Moscow?"
"No," I reply, "I haven't watched any news today except German Journal sports section."
"Holy cow," they reply, "those Chechen guys you talk about all the time blew something up!"
I jumped on the ol' mobile phone, punched up AP News and guess what? It's not even on the first page! Are Russian lives so cheap that no one cares? I know Chechnya is so far on the rest of the world's "back burner" that it's not even cool, but seriously....
I know no one was killed, but do you think the terrorists planned it that way? I know they're big on sabotaging railroads in their fun corner of the Islamist globe, but why the hell doesn't the AP Newswire even care?
Sorry if this sounds strident, but it struck a chord with me - only my friends cared about it because they know I'm moving to Moscow in two months, but apparently it matters not to the rest of the world.
As I like to say, "WTF, over?!" |
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gonzock
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Joined: 17 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| Did you hear or read anything about a bomb in Zaragoza's airport last saturday? It was ETA, the terrorist group. It's not on the international news because noboby got killed. |
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sputnik
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| Yes, i guess the world got used to it. It will be a conversation subject though for people that will take a similar train soon or that live in the area. Terrorism doesn't go unnoticed in Russia and it does worry people. Also in areas outside Chechnia/Moscow where as far as i know, not much happens. |
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e
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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The BBC was on top on it right from this morning when it happened:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4084928.stm
The BBC usualy tends to be on top of things though. Thats why I use them over AP. A lot gets reported on BBC that doesn't on AP and vice-versa.
I suppose that the media concerning ETA and Chechnya is that small attacks have become so "common" that its not even considered headline news anymore unless, as gonzock says, have caused major death and destruction.
Media tends to be concerned about ratings and probably why they are selective: stories that wont generate reader interest get pushed aside or not even reported at all. AP with its high American readership are looking for and often print more often news from Iraq. |
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traceymill
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Joined: 05 Apr 2005
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Location: chicago il
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| Totally agree with previous posts. The news here in america is a joke, The only news I even listen to anymore is NPR and World News on my PBS station. If I got BBC then I would totally watch it, but I read the New York Times every Sunday and it summarizes the week pretty well, tho from an American slant. The Economist is a good one, but expensive. When in Europe it is so amazing to watch the news, it is a completely different agenda, and it becomes readily apparent that our entire media structure is primarily geared toward over the top, exploitive journalism that is almost humerous to watch. I find it sickening actually, (I would rather get my news from Comedy Central and "The Daily Show" than a major network, love that show!!) As far as bombings in Russia, it comes with the territory, a few years ago TWO days after I left they bombed the underground mall and the mall besides Red Square, we had just spent our last in day in both places. Pretty weird feeling, I must say. But you can't stop living your life, because then they win, and I refuse to live my life in terror. |
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Mogsfan
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vettra
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| Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:03 am Post subject: |
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How much airtime did Beslan get in America? I was in Russia and it was on RTR every day for a month solid, round the clock. Much like WTC 9/11 in America. The English have repeatedly criticized me for being American. "Americans are totally ignorant of what's happening in the world". I ocassionaly reply that flying London to Moscow is quicker than New York to Denver (the answer doesn't faze them).
I've traveled so much, I can't remember if Americans are truly disconnected from the rest of the world. But I do know some that think Paris is in Italy, or perhaps Idaho. |
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init6
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Location: Москва, Россия
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Mogs, yeah they eventually covered it but there was f***-all to be found outside of MosNews and a blurb by the NY Times, buried three levels deep in the Int'l section, the day after it happened. Obviously Russian news covered it, and when I made the post I was drunk and still thought some people had been killed.
Beslan actually got a decent amount of coverage, Vettra, especially considering how lax coverage of world events is these days. On Friday CNN was covering a helicopter crashing into the East River in NYC for over an hour, while there's hardly any coverage of European news other than EU squabbling. That's why I watch News World International almost exclusively - it's nothing but world news, and usually only covers political news for the US. That, and they broadcast German Journal, which is excellent stuff (Deutsche Welle is great news, period). |
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e
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Beslan coverage was decent in the US media but not as through enough as it should have been. I remember the theatre siege was outright ignored by the US media. It only got ten min sounbytes on it and the only way to get reliable info about it was through international media.
I also find "The Daily Show" to be far more informative than the so-called "World News Tonight" on ABC. DW is fine, but they tend to focus too much on German news and issues too much
Tracey you said you are a college student right? You can access articles for free through your school library on-line through lexis nexis --provided that they are a subscriber to their system.
The BBC also has a very good Russian language only news service:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/russian/news/default.stm
and the same in Ukrainian:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ukrainian/index.shtml |
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traceymill
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Location: chicago il
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| Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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I am not currently a student, but I still have access to the University of Texas library, so I will check it out. thanks for the tip.  |
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init6
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Location: Москва, Россия
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I have to agree with both Tracy and e that, not only is it sad, but The Daily Show is just plain better journalism (I can't believe I just said that) than almost any cable or broadcast news. Lou Dobbs on CNN is alright for domestic issues, and he has no problems asking hard questions of guests on the show, but it's still almost 100% domestic.
With regards to DW, it certainly is German-centric, but I've lived in Germany and care about what goes on there, so for me it's great.  |
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linguist
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| I think the coverage of Beslan was very poor. The only places I noticed any coverage after the first day or so would be CNN and NPR. Granted, I don't make a habit out of watching television news, but you'd think something of that scope would be covered extensively. Americans tend to be very self-centered in news and politics. No Americans were directly affected, thus it doesn't hold interest. |
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mediashark
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Grozny isn't a place where expats or tourists are likely to frequent...  who cares, right? |
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Siexela
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init6
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| It was a facetious question, hence the rolling eyes. |
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