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Anya Lounge Lizard
Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 157
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think Rewan ever lives in Russia. If he is he's probably one of the incredibly immature AKM or 'little commie' brats that spray-paints my nice little neighbourhood with hammer and sickles.
That aside, I think Russian education has great potential. It is in severe need of funding, but the talent (and the talent pool) is there. Think of all the great scientists that Russia gave the world during the time when there was quite a bit of state funding.
Also a British expat told me of her decision to send her daughter to an international school, although she felt that her daughter would adjust better to life in Russia if she was in sent to a local school. But, she said, that Russian schools push the students a lot compared to the international school and she thought it would be too stressful for her. |
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init6 WayToRussified
Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Posts: 363 Location: Москва, Россия
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| MrSpice wrote: | init6: I am just curious, are you going to enroll in a college in Russia? How much are you going to pay for that?
That loan would be a small one.
I cannot imagine you are getting a much better deal in Russia. |
I am getting a much better deal than FSU. The main thing to remember here is that I don't want to go to FSU. I'm tired of my hometown, I'm tired of Florida and I'm tired of the US. I want to leave the country for awhile and that's what I'm doing. I didn't do the math on FSU, but I'm pretty sure it's more than what I'm paying.
Fee schedule for MGU direct enrollment - http://www.msu.ru/en/admissions/
SRAS program page - http://sras.org/program.phtml?m=34
I'm paying, base fee (mine will be higher because I opted for a single room in the dormitory), $5795 for a full academic year (two semesters, 20 hrs/wk) including dormitory. To quote SRAS, "Includes at least 20 academic hours per week of language class, dormitory accommodation, visa support, pre-departure materials, orientation, level I cultural program, and SRAS in-country support." SRAS is acknowledged as being "pricey" to begin with, although I found it a very good deal.
Once I pass the TORFL (Test of Russian as a Foreign Language) I will be eligible to enroll directly in MGU. Their base fee for one academic year in the journalism department is $4000. That will rise, obviously, with living costs, etc. But it still appears to be a better deal than going to school in Florida, where I get the "resident" pricing.
Once again, however, the fact remains that I simply do not want to go to school in Florida, and I'm tired of living in the US - so I'm going abroad to get an education. Russia still has a bit of a 'Wild West' flair to it, there's adventure in spades (and danger, of course), and the opportunities for people like me, who don't "fit the mold," as it were, are myriad. I was watching a show about Moscow the other day and, strange as it sounds, I had a feeling while I was watching it that in five weeks I'm "going home."
Anya, Renwan is actually an older guy who grew up in the Soviet Union. He was obviously a hard-core Party member and misses the old days. It's not that bad...but there's too many "blind faithers," on both sides, on this forum.
***EDIT: SRAS just updated my invoice. After adding $325 for visa processing and $100 for airport transfers, the total is $6120 for my academic year there. Apparently a single-room dorm is part of the deal. |
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MrSpice Lounge Wizard
Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 3431
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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init6: I understand you reason for going to study in Russia and all this "Wild West" stuff. However, Moscow is no wild west (it's a disorganized post-soviet East). Since I myself was resident of that country, went to universities in both Russia and the US and just visited there and have some understanding of what life in America is like, I think you don't realize what you're getting yourself into. Not that Moscow is reallt bad or anything, but I think that if you - someone born in America and American to the core - are sick of Florida and everything else in the US - you are likely to get sick of Moscow much sooner. This is just my opinion. Once you get there and spend there more than one month, let me know. I would like to be wrong in this case.
As far as studying at the university in Russia: the main difference for me what that here in the US I had much more freedom to take courses within the required number of credits, there's lots of help available if you need it, comuter labs are open 24/7, etc. Academically, the school in russia that I attended was very good. But in terms of enjoyment, freedom of choice and overall satisfaction it was pretty bad (I mean, I thought it was OK until I came here). I like many things in Russia because it has some sentimental value for me. I cannot imagine you enjoying Mascow's 'Wild West" for long. But let's see what happens... |
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cook Frequent Guest
Joined: 31 Mar 2005 Posts: 59 Location: Michigan, US
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:49 am Post subject: |
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As for me, I can't think of a better way to learn Russian than to study there, so that's where I'll spend my last year; thank goodness my major advisor back at JMU approved. I have to agree with init6 though- part of my decision to go is definitely wanderlust ...I just wish that I could have snagged a dorm room instead of staying with a host family. Hope they don't mind someone who smokes outside. |
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