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Travelling by train

 
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chog
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Joined: 18 Apr 2005
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Location: South Africa

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:24 pm    Post subject: Travelling by train Reply with quote

I want to travel by train from Kiev to Krasnodar. The route goes via Rostov - I think and the trip lasts 24 hours. I am going to travel with my infant son and my Russian wife. I see the 2nd class tickets are much cheaper than the first class tickets. Is it worth travelling by first class in Russian trains or is second class good enough as well? I can afford both but don't want to spend an excessive amount of cash if sencond class train travelling is noce enough.
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wwwadim
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Joined: 15 Apr 2005
Posts: 145
Location: Moscow Region, M-7 Highway, Noginsk

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: Travelling by train Reply with quote

chog wrote:
I want to travel by train from Kiev to Krasnodar. The route goes via Rostov - I think and the trip lasts 24 hours. I am going to travel with my infant son and my Russian wife. I see the 2nd class tickets are much cheaper than the first class tickets. Is it worth travelling by first class in Russian trains or is second class good enough as well? I can afford both but don't want to spend an excessive amount of cash if sencond class train travelling is noce enough.


Difference between 1st class and 2nd class is a huge.
Simply look at these photos.

2nd class vagon called 'platskartniy':
http://www.lionking.ru/world/tlk_party/party38/crimea1/7.jpg
http://www.lionking.ru/world/tlk_party/party38/crimea1/5.jpg

1st class 'kupe' is much better. Places are isolated, more comfortable

If your way more than 16+ hours I'd reccomend you to use 1st class.
Anyway if your travel is during night best variant is 1st class.

Usually in Russia province 2nd class used by poor people, babushkas, drunked men, brutal people.

As for me, I'd reccomend you to use 1st class cupe.
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Keeper
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Joined: 28 May 2005
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Location: Russia

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use the 1-st class only. Especially with a child.
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chog
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Joined: 18 Apr 2005
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Location: South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:22 pm    Post subject: Train Reply with quote

If the rif-raf use 2nd class like you say they do, I'd hate to think who uses the 3rd class dormatory coaches!
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Anya
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Joined: 19 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take the first class definitely and hope you'll have good cabin neighbours. more comfortable, and even quite fun.
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cw1
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Joined: 23 Aug 2005
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Location: Kent England

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:58 pm    Post subject: Yadrino ? how to get there? Reply with quote

hi can any one help me ?i need to find out how to get from Moscow to Yadrino, republic of Chuvasia about 700 kms east of Moscow im looking to travel end of october and wondering if i can get a train to Yadrino and if so how often do they run and how long do they take? in advance thanks for any help,cheers
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wwwadim
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Location: Moscow Region, M-7 Highway, Noginsk

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Yadrino ? how to get there? Reply with quote

cw1 wrote:
hi can any one help me ?i need to find out how to get from Moscow to Yadrino, republic of Chuvasia about 700 kms east of Moscow im looking to travel end of october and wondering if i can get a train to Yadrino and if so how often do they run and how long do they take? in advance thanks for any help,cheers


AFAIK, maybe this name is 'Yadrin'?
There only one town called 'Yadri*' Smile in Chuvashia.

1. If you have a car simply drive by M-7 Highway to East. Moscow - Vladimir -Nizhniy Novgorod - Lyskovo then Yadrin.

Here you go: http://maps.yandex.ru/map_search.xml?map=5&lay=28&id=2343&text=%DF%E4%F0%E8%ED

2. Or use buses from Moscow to Cheboksary. Ask the driver if this bus go through Yadrin. If do then ask him to stop there. Else go to Cheboksary then use local buses to reach Yadrin (77 kilometers).
Moscow bus station is situated near metro station 'Shchyolkovskaya' (last subway station of dark blue line at Moscow's east).

3. About train. I think it is difficult to use trains there. The nearest station rather far away from town (89 km). May use train Moscow - Cheboksary, then local bus from Cheboksary to Yadrin.

4. Also by plane: Moscow - Cheboksary. then local bus from Cheboksary to Yadrin.

For more information use this site: http://yadrin.narod.ru/ (only Russian language)
To look some photos of town Yadrin: http://foto.cheb.ru/cat124/

By the way Yadrin is typical provincial small town. Be careful there. Not take much cash there, expencive cameras, phones and try to wear some dark clothes (cheap blue jeans and dark jacket). And indeed there no one talk language except russian and chuvash.

Maybe in this town there are no problem with crime and crazy alcoholics, but if you have posibility to find out some extra information from locals - do this.
Good luck!
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cw1
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Joined: 23 Aug 2005
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Location: Kent England

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject: Yadrino? Reply with quote

hello wwwadim thanks for your quick reply to my question. up to now any questions i have asked on different sites have not helped a lot but thanks for your detailed answers ,its been a big help ,cheers have a vodka on me!!!
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