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nikos
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 Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 11:41 pm Post subject: drive from new york to greece |
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hi, my name is nick and i want to go to greece by car. i live in new york and the only way to go to greece by car is if i go to alaska, then cross siberia and then drive south after i reach moskow. my questions are :
- how can i cross from alaska to siberia( is there any bridge or carferry)
- are there any roads at all(i will be driving a Hummer so even if you know of minor roads, that's fine)
- how long is it gonna take me from alaska to moskow
- how often will i find a gas station or motel
- how safe it is to drive through siberia, and how safe it is to sleep in the car
- can i use us dollars / credit card or they only accept their own currency
- is it 24/7 daytime in june(this is when i'm gonna go)
these are all the questions that i can think of. if you guys have any answer please let me know.
thanx .
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me
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2002 7:41 am Post subject: Are you mad? |
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| You must be - you'll find very little in the way of gas stations and unfortunately you will have to be carefull on our roads in a hummer. A lot of the roads are too small, especially crossing Siberia |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:27 pm Post subject: well... |
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- how can i cross from alaska to siberia( is there any bridge or carferry)
Dunno this yet.
- are there any roads at all(i will be driving a Hummer so even if you know of minor roads, that's fine)
Some people say it's not possible to get from North Siberia to Baikal by car, but some say it's possible It's just very hard, and I doubt that on this way there'll be gas stations.
- how long is it gonna take me from alaska to moskow
From Baikal to Moscow it's about 5000 km, I don't know how long it takes from Alaska to Baikal.
- how often will i find a gas station or motel
Motels -- not possible (at least, again, before Baikal), gas stations -- well, it's a "oil" region of Russia, but I don't know if they organized something like gas stations there.
- how safe it is to drive through siberia, and how safe it is to sleep in the car
Should be safe, but cold.
- can i use us dollars / credit card or they only accept their own currency
Only roubles cash.
- is it 24/7 daytime in june(this is when i'm gonna go)
No. |
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Charlie
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:36 pm Post subject: Drive |
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What you are proposing is essentially impossible. First, you cannot drive from Alaska to Russia.
Second, driving from that part of Siberia to other russian areas, even if you could get over,is not possible, either.
Forget it. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 7:19 am Post subject: |
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What is it about Americans and their need to "drive across Siberia"? Is it some sort of "Westward Ho!" grand imperial conquest trip designed to impress the natives as to Yankee superiority? And in a Hummer of all things, puhleeez!
If a Yank really wants to be daring, why not make the trip as Lewis and Clark, in buckskins, on foot and by canoe? No need to worry about credit cards, gas stations, or hotels! |
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magicjigpipe
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hmmmmm...last time I checked Louis and Clark didn't travel from New York to the western-most tip of Alaska, cross the Bering Straight and travel ~5000 miles to Greece via Siberias shitty infrastructure. One thing I don't understand about you Russians is why you can't get your shit together and build some kind of basic roads in Siberia. Is it really that hard? I don't mean to be an asshole but I'm sick and tired of people always subtley insulting and belittling Americans.
I've been online for about 2 hours looking for that same answer to that same question (almost) and when I finally think I found the answers from a credible source (Russians) all it is is you insulting us, calling us "Yanks" and just flat out saying "it's impossible" and to "FORGET IT". I'm sorry, that may be how Russians do things. But here we don't have that defeatist attitude. If someone says it is impossible and to "Forget it" we will look for a second opinion. That is what I will do because I have always wanted to drive from my home in the United States, all the way to Moscow.
"Second, driving from that part of Siberia to other russian areas, even if you could get over,is not possible, either. "
So, how did the Soviet/Russian Government get all of their nuclear missles and heavy equipment to the silos and military installations all over Siberia? What about the nuclear testing in Siberia? You think they just flew over, dropped a bomb, took some pictures and left? No, they had to set up all kinds of shit. So, don't tell me that it is "impossible" to drive in Siberia.
The only thing I see stopping me or anyone else would be availability of gas. I just don't see that happening, but of course I don't know a lot about that part of Russia.
Thank you everybody for your insight despite some of your pessimistic and condescending attitudes. |
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wu687
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| Have a look at vancouvertomoscow.com |
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cook
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| Plus, traveling as Lewis and Clark did would mean that one member of your party would have to die from a burst appendix while everyone else would battle fatigue, dysentery, biting insects, boredom, and the weather. You take the canoes and buckskins, I'll stick with the Hummer. |
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sputnik
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for those who are really determined to drive from america to russia... there are quite some discussions to be found online on the topic of building a bridge across the bering strait.
neither of the proposals seem to very feasible as a project of course, connecting 2 of the most notoriously remote areas on the planet. but it's fun to see what it requires in terms of technology to 'rebuild' the prehistoric landbridge between the eurasian and north american continents
there was of course already a discovery channel item on the subject:
http://media.dsc.discovery.com/convergence/engineering/beringstrait/interactive/interactive.html
if you want to drive across it: either be very patient or make sure to bring your imaginary car and don't get out of your armchair.. |
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renwan
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You will hardly get authoritzation to cross the bering strait to russia, hardly if not impossible.
and then i doubt they will allow you to travel by car all thought russia since we have military bases there, secret ones and we dont want people looking.... Forget the driving part...it took over 5 years of petitions for the BBC guy that did cross the bering, and he was given permisison to cross the Bering after waiting there 3 weeks because the general encharged of the security of that area refused, and he was a BBC guy with references,inmagine an unknown american....
In my point of view this are the options:
a)you wont be given permission
b) you will and you will die.
c)you will get lost=dying if u speak no russian... |
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MrSpice
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| thia guy has so much free time on this hands, it's unbelievable... Why can't I have problems like this in my life. I would just cross some obscure borders survining without any reason instead of going to work every day... |
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Yanka
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| This has to be the most arrogant post I've read! What, you think you'd get a red carpet and welcome signs ready for your arrival in Siberia? And Chevron and Arco and Shell to choose from? What possesed you to think someone would allow you to use military roads? If by some miracle you'd get past Alaska, I hope you have good insurance on that Hummer of yours, cuz I have a sneaking suspicion you would be flying home.. if you are lucky enough.. |
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alanh
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I strongly suspect the original poster (from 2002) was kidding. And hey, if you're still here and did go, let us know how it went. 
The topic was brought back to life by somone trying to increase the Google ranking of his website, by creating many links to it (via the link in his signature). |
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vettra
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| I actually once upon a time had a similar idea. I discovered there is a tiny community of die-hard dreamers who want to build a bridge / tunnel over [/under] the Bering Strait (for example, http://www.arctic.net/~snnr/tunnel/intro.html). That 90 km distance is one MEAN M'F'kg bitch. Crab boatmen die nearby every year. It is possible to cross it in the winter *maybe* by jumping from iceberg to iceberg, but one faces constant peril of stepping or driving into thin ice, falling under, then dying of hypothermia in about 90 seconds. OK perhaps you'll ferry the vehicle: there are no regular boat crossings. You have 2 small islands in the middle, big & little Diomede - possible resting points. Also, getting from say, Fairbanks: NO. there are no roads to the east coast of the Bering Strait, according to my research. Conversely, the trans-Siberian railway and corresponding roads trail off to nothing after Vladivostok (which is way SW - IF there were roads there, you'd have a long long drive from the Chukchi [Chukti?] peninsula, across Irkutsk, etc. Check this: from Irkutsk to Vladivostok is like, a 3 hour PLANE ride). Extra: Chukti Peninsula.. you're facing fairly hostile whalers, seal hunters, basically not-too-friendly types that hunt & kill for a living, who [post-Greenpeace] don't want to be bothered. Not to mention that a $50K+ vehicle looks mighty appealing to a poor illiterate US-hating seal killer. What I've heard, the area's a bit fetid / rancid - mountains of whale bones, giant fish farms, etc. I'm guessing you're bones will be tossed in while your Hummer gets sold in Vladivostok. Maybe you'll be armed - your American gun permit might as well be toilet paper, guns are fairly illegal in Russia. Except in the military - I'm sure you'd run into that over there. Probably lots of guys who spent the bulk of their [USSR] lives watching in crosshair scopes for the enemy - Americans coming from Alaska. The quality of gasoline is noticeably worse in Russia - but a Hummer should be able to take the abuse. Oh, did I forget to mention there's no GM dealership for .. well whatever the distance to Anchorage or Fairbanks. |
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MB
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I like the idea -- I've thought about it myself -- but the way you frame the question suggests that you are not ready to attempt anything like what you propose.
First, a Hummer is out of the question. Where would you get the parts. Why would you want the hassle of driving a U.S. military vehicle in Russia. And, ummm, have you noticed what lies across the Bering Sea - It's Kamchatka, and that doesn't connect to anything outside Kamchatka.
Sorry about the stern language, but it sounds like you are trying to get yourself into serious trouble that we'll read about later.
My advice, try Nova Scotia to Deadhorse Alaska. |
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