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Do Russians Miss The USSR?
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SnoopyZ
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 4:18 am    Post subject: Do Russians Miss The USSR? Reply with quote

Do Russians miss the USSR and the old way of doing things vs. the new democracy? and have there been visable changes or are things in Russia still the same?

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Anna
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2004 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why ever such a question arises in your mind? If you visited Russia in clod war times - you can come now and compare. There, of course, are some old people, who are conservative and miss the old type of country - but not many. How a free man can wish to go back to cage again?
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SnoopyZ
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im Quite sorry for my comment, I do not understand your old way of living, I hope I didnt offend you or your country. If I did Im TRUELY SORRY! Embarassed


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Anna
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's OK. Sorry for being irritable. But just it's a question everyone keeps asking Rolling Eyes
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SnoopyZ
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its ok, Im constantly sick of being asked If I suport Iraq. Guess we have equal feelings of things that anoy us.



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Anna
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wink
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Atomcat
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:07 pm    Post subject: Last Year Reply with quote



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Anna
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you really think life in the USSR was secure?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:40 am    Post subject: Secure Reply with quote



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Anna
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is mostly a question of age and successfulness.
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Anna
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For older people it's difficult to realize, that for a long time they built grandious things - and for nothing, and that all they used to believe in - is just a sandcastle.
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vorteks
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a foreigner in Russia coming from Europe, this is of course a question i didnt miss to ask and like here, i noticed that the question seemed to irritate due to its repetitiveness.

The conclusions are very similar to those given on this thread. It is really a question of adaptability and energy, which relates to generation. Pensioners dont get enough money to enter the new society of consumption and enjoy the freedom of movement. Older people still working often had to quit their interesting but non productive job to find part time jobs that dont fit their level of instruction. Those people of course regret the communist times and think that USSR was wide enough for them not to feel emprisoned.

Of course, for the younger generations that had the energy, will, strength, many times luck to successfully adapt to new realities, travel abroad, afford a western life style, post communist russia is a wonderful land of oportunities.

But this logic is not specific to Russia. You can extend it to all former communist countries in Eastern Europe, even eastern germany.

I dont extend this logic to China for example, even tho the country is getting rid of former communist ideologies and opening it s market to foreign investors, it is done in a very different way, since the government has still a strong control on everything. The positive side is that the transition is much smoother and older people can benefit from the economic growth to a certain extent. Foreign investment is much stronger as well, as the only entity to bribe to enter the market is governement officials. Criminality is not really a problem. The drawback is naturally the lack of freedom.
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Dan23
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes sense to ask the question - I read somewhere once that the Communist party in Russia has about 50% popularity. This may be totally wrong, considering Putin's popularity, but it suggests to me that there are plenty of people who would like to go back.

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AliceFromMoscow
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan23 wrote:
It makes sense to ask the question - I read somewhere once that the Communist party in Russia has about 50% popularity. This may be totally wrong, considering Putin's popularity, but it suggests to me that there are plenty of people who would like to go back.

Dan

yes there are plenty of such people, and all of them are over 60 years old.
i cant imagine how a person, being in right mind, can miss ussr? Shocked
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Dan23
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, then, am I right in assuming that the communist party is mostly the older generation, people who are not willing to change their ideology? Or is there also a significant vigor to the party among newer voters? I can imagine that 50% of voters are in the "over 60" category, but I can't imagine that everyone over 60 votes communist.

(Sorry to press the point).

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