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tomgeens
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 Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:34 pm Post subject: alska-provideniya-anadyr-magadan-vladivostok |
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hi
i'm planning a trip in a couple of weeks to go via alaska into east siberia. ideal trajectory is to go from alaska to provideniya and then to anadyr, from there to magadan and then to vladivostok, to then take ferry to japan.
i know you can fly from anchorage to magadan, but ideally i'd like to start much higher, ie provideniya. Is there a road/rail system there that could take me south?
so question is, is this trajectory possible? or only certain sections of this trip? which ones and how (which forms of transport)? can anyone recommend certain highlights? should i go via kamchatka peninsula?
i know a lot of questions, so very much appreciated....
tom |
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JNH_2005
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www.beringair.com
Click on "Trip Planning" and then "Russian Travel"
They operate charter flights to Provideniya - from Alaska. |
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wwwadim
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: Re: alska-provideniya-anadyr-magadan-vladivostok |
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| tomgeens wrote: | hi
i'm planning a trip in a couple of weeks to go via alaska into east siberia. ideal trajectory is to go from alaska to provideniya and then to anadyr, from there to magadan and then to vladivostok, to then take ferry to japan.
i know you can fly from anchorage to magadan, but ideally i'd like to start much higher, ie provideniya. Is there a road/rail system there that could take me south?
so question is, is this trajectory possible? or only certain sections of this trip? which ones and how (which forms of transport)? can anyone recommend certain highlights? should i go via kamchatka peninsula?
i know a lot of questions, so very much appreciated....
tom |
Hi Tom.
I know these places very well because I have been working there 12 years (Magadan, Chukotka).
The most possible trajectory is Ancorage - Magadan - Anadyr - Providenia and then back. 
There are no roads at all in that regions. You've got used only planes and some all-roads vehicles at winter and sometimes at summer.
The first biggest problem you would get - is a special permitton for entering Chukotka territory. This permittion could be give you only by the governor of Chukotka - mr.Abramovich (Chelsey FC and so on ). You'll spend about 2 month to do this. Plus visa to Russia.
Second problem - there are no hotels at Providenia now (15 years ago there was a little hotel). It is a small town with a population about 500-700 people. And there only 1 plane or heli in a week to the Anadyr town. Plus very bad wheather conditions for flying so you could hang up at the town (Anadyr or Providenia) up to one or two weeks.
But you can hire heli at 4 hours for example at the local airoport. Yoy pay only 300 dollars per hour of flying. Anadyr - Providenia - 2 hour of flying by heli.
Third problem - is a bad medical service at these place.
But if you have a possibility to travel these places - I'll reccomend to do it - you'll get unforgettable impressions and much emotions.
Tom, you could ask me any question about it - I can answer any question about this topic. |
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tomgeens
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject: thanks so much for your reply, and yes i have more questions |
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wadim (is this your name?)
thanks so much! very useful... I have some more questions if you don't mind.
looks like i'll have to go straight to magadan then, cos haven't really got that kinda money nor time to wait for two months, as i'm planning to go in about three weeks. Shame cos yes sounds amazing! maybe as i live in london i should go straight to abromoviz' office and knock on his door.
do you know whether there are any connections between magadan and vladivostok? and what kind: roads or train? would you recommend to go to kamchatsky peninsula?
also what's the best way to get to japan cos that's my plan: which route is most memorable? via vladivostok or are there other more interesting ways?
I don't really know any russian? should i learn some before i go there? or can i get by with some basic english?
that's it! hope not too much!
cheers
tom |
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wwwadim
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:28 am Post subject: Re: thanks so much for your reply, and yes i have more quest |
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| tomgeens wrote: | wadim (is this your name?)
thanks so much! very useful... I have some more questions if you don't mind.
looks like i'll have to go straight to magadan then, cos haven't really got that kinda money nor time to wait for two months, as i'm planning to go in about three weeks. Shame cos yes sounds amazing! maybe as i live in london i should go straight to abromoviz' office and knock on his door.
do you know whether there are any connections between magadan and vladivostok? and what kind: roads or train? would you recommend to go to kamchatsky peninsula?
also what's the best way to get to japan cos that's my plan: which route is most memorable? via vladivostok or are there other more interesting ways?
I don't really know any russian? should i learn some before i go there? or can i get by with some basic english?
that's it! hope not too much!
cheers
tom |
Exactly, my name is Vadim .
Magadan is not so interesting as Chukotka but there are lot places to visit. Magadan is a town alike Ancorage in Alaska by population. There are in Magadan big airport. Everyday 2 planes to Moscow and 1 to Anadyr, some planes to Vladivostok and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatski. So there are no problem to fly in Moscow or Vladivostok.
But it would be better if you have invented some reasons as a photo session in Magadan or business trip before you fly to Magadan. Because Magadan alike Anadyr is a special zone but not so hard. You know there are some Russia's largest gold mines in Magadan's sububrb and you'll pass custom and then frontier guards at airoport
If you arrive at Magadan I reccomend you to visit some places of prisoner-of-war camps and labour camps - prisons of Stalin's and USSR period. At 30's - 50's there are in Magadan region were about up to 200.000 prisoners from whole Russia. It was a huge prison in USSR. These prisons were organizes as a settlements along 700-km Kolymskoe Shosse road from Magadan to Oimyakon (the coldest place in the world after Antarctic - -71o by Celsius) And the most places are at first 300-400 km from Magadan. Now there are ok, it is safe to visit these places.
If you arrived at Magadan I'll reccomend you to find a hotel in the city and then find a place where you can rent a car. Because it is the most comfortable way to move around that places. Very scenic places are towns - Sinegorie, Susuman, Seimchan, Yagodnoe and other towns at Kolymskoe Shosse road.
Wheather. The best way to visit Magadan is a Jule. Because in May there is a winter there But Magadan is a warmer place then other places of that region. But Magadan is a little colder at summer than in a continental part of region.
Languauge. You must know essential russian words and phrases to visit this part. If you don't know - take some translators. Because a few people know any foreign language there inspite of educated people.
To get Japan from The Far East you'll have got use a plane from Habarovsk city. There 1-2 flyings per a week to Niigata (Japan) than at the ferry Sinkansen to Tokio . What about Vladivostok - maybe there any flyings to Niigata too - I don't know but I'll try to find out.
Habarovsk, Vladivostok - the biggest cities at the Far East (500.000 people at every city). Every city is interesting also. Also reccomend Komsomolsk-na-Amure - the beggining of BAM and Jewish Republic near Habarovsk - the biggest getto of Jewish people in Russia
Kamchatka Peninsula is also pitoresque.
But it would be better to know yours preferrer at this planning voyage, time of visiting and max budget.
It's difficult to tell you in a one word. I could discuss this topic more here
P.S. Some photos to illustrate my message:
Magadan photos - http://mag-city.ru/
Magadan region photos - http://mag-city.ru/categories.php?cat_id=22&sessionid=cf8977af9380204bd44fd4db6923d6c5 |
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tomgeens
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:19 am Post subject: fantastic! |
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vadim
thank you so much! this is extremely useful.
sorry every time you post an answer, i have many more questions. is that ok? if not, please ignore them.
so will it be difficult to get a visa for magadan?
is there a rail link between magadan and vladivostok, cos that's what i ideally would like to do (i would like to avoid planes as much as possible).
i heard that there are ferries from vladivostok to japan, is this true?
you know any good travel operators in magadan?
my plans: i'm planning to leave in 3 weeks time (i can hear you laugh): i'm going to toronto in canada and then from there to alaska by train/road, so should be in magadan by mid-april (hopefully)
thanks again!!
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wwwadim
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:43 am Post subject: Re: fantastic! |
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| tomgeens wrote: | vadim
thank you so much! this is extremely useful.
sorry every time you post an answer, i have many more questions. is that ok? if not, please ignore them.
so will it be difficult to get a visa for magadan?
is there a rail link between magadan and vladivostok, cos that's what i ideally would like to do (i would like to avoid planes as much as possible).
i heard that there are ferries from vladivostok to japan, is this true?
you know any good travel operators in magadan?
my plans: i'm planning to leave in 3 weeks time (i can hear you laugh): i'm going to toronto in canada and then from there to alaska by train/road, so should be in magadan by mid-april (hopefully)
thanks again!!
tom |
Tom,
of course not disturb me
I'd like to help to you to visit The Far East and I'd like to get more question you want to ask.
This is a site of Magadan's tourism - http://www.tour-magadan.ru/
The famous tour firm is a "Mag Tour". I'll try to find out their contacts and ask the situation about visiting of foreigners. And then write you.
There are no railroad at the Far East except the southern part of in. There is no railroad between Vladivostok and Magadan, no even road for cars.
About rail between Vladivostok and Japan. No Vladivostok is an ends of railroad of Russia. No passenger rails between Vladivostok and Japan. Only Plane and by sea.
Mid-april in Magadan - it will be a real winter You'll get some warm clothes or buy them at the airoport.
I'll try to find out some more info about your trip and then tell you soon. While you can ask me other questions. |
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tomgeens
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: magadan-vladivostok |
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vadim
thanks again...
one more question: there does seem to be a connection from magadan to yakutsk and then from there to skovorodino: i don't know whether this is train or road.
in skovorodino there i can take the train to vladivostok (trans siberian).
what do you think of this? does this sound believable?
also would it be very expensive to get a driver in magadan to take me to vladivostok? or does this not exist?
also re trip from russia to japan: yes i meant ferry. also apparently there is a ferry from Zarubina to Sokcho, South Korea. is zarubina far from vladivostok, cos am not able to pinpoint it on the map.
thanks again!
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tomgeens
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| Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:02 pm Post subject: east siberia |
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hey vadim
just wondering if you had any news from your contacts in those areas i'm going to...
tht's all!
thanks
tom |
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wwwadim
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: east siberia |
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| tomgeens wrote: | hey vadim
just wondering if you had any news from your contacts in those areas i'm going to...
tht's all!
thanks
tom |
Hi Tom,
Sorry for a long silence.
But I've found out that there are 2 travel agencies in Britain and USA who organized visits to Anadyr and Magadan for foreigners. I can try to learn about it if you need - I'll help you.
Second - I've found 3 travel agencies in Magadan who have experiences in organizing visits for foreigners. But it seems they don't know English . Inspite of this I can share you with their emails.
Asking your questions about places at the Far East. Yes there are normal road from Magadan to Yakutsk, then there are better "highway" to Skovorodino from Yakutsk. Then you can change to a train and visit Habarovsk and then Vladivostok.
It is a real plan but be careful. There are much wild, dangerous places.
Because of rare local road gangsters and other
If you find any local guide and pay him 100-200$ maybe he can travel with you until skovorodino then the train is not so extreme place at the Far East and then you can travel alone.
I consider if you'll use bus from Magadan to Yakutsk it'll cost about 20-40$ no more. Then you can find any local drivers or to find some buses to Skovorodino, Tynda. Or if you speaks some russian good - you can drive with a truck driver - hitch-hiking. It would be interesting and unusual for a driver to spend time at a long road (2-5 days depends on wheather condition). It'll cost no money If you have some packs of cigarettes with you for him or some presents for his family - it is the best way to thank him.
Yes, you can also move from Vanino or some other towns to Japan, but all trains that cross a channel on a train-ferry they all with freight, cargo no passengers. But there are many trains to Beijing from Habarovsk and then maybe any way to reach Japan from China? |
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wwwadim
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Some added - April-May is a good time to visit Magadan.
Talaya Resort - suburb of Magadan - rather good place for skiing, alpine skiing, snowboarding or snowbiking (snowmobiles) |
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tomgeens
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:16 pm Post subject: brilliant! |
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vadim
that's good news to hear there are roads from magadan to yakutsk! fantastic! Are they open also at the moment, march-april? they don't close for winter?
I realise it's probably a wild territory and lots of gangsters after tourist's money, but i'll be careful!
yes it would be good to speak to some of those travel agencies in magadan, regarding what's to see there and maybe transport to yakutsk. Also skiing in magadan seems a wild and good idea!
again thank you so much for all your help! really kind!
tom |
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waytorussia
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wwwadim,
Any more info on the resort? Do you know the heights, piste length, transport links, and this sort of info? Do they have a website? Would be really helpful, because we're writing the Russia section for the 2006/2007 edition for the World Snowboard Guide and it would be good to add this resort in the book. |
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wwwadim
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| WayToRussia wrote: | wwwadim,
Any more info on the resort? Do you know the heights, piste length, transport links, and this sort of info? Do they have a website? Would be really helpful, because we're writing the Russia section for the 2006/2007 edition for the World Snowboard Guide and it would be good to add this resort in the book. |
Yes, this is only link I've found at Internet: http://www.tour-magadan.ru/ - there are everything about tourism in Magadan Region.
Also don't forget about Kamchatka - is also good place for tours. |
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waytorussia
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Thanks for the info! Kamchatka is already there
If you want to write a section about Moscow region for our guide, please, send me a PM. |
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