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Sisleve-Ivan
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Joined: 22 Jun 2004
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Location: San Diego, California
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 Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 2:53 am Post subject: I am very new to Russian women |
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| Hello Everyone out there! My name is Happy John - I translated it to Sisleve Ivan with the help of a Russian lady I met while on vacation in northern Italy. I met her in a small piazza while lighting her cigarette. She is fluent in Italian - I am able to communicate fairly well in Italian. My Italian friend and I did not know she was from Russia until I aked her where she was from (Siberia). She has been in Italy for 7 years now. We had a few dates while I was there. I invited her to visit me in San Diego and she accepted. We have talked on the phone everyday since I returned. According to my Italian friend, whom I trust very much, she is completely legal in Italy. He has been helping her with setting up an internet connection in her home, and assisting her with a tourist visa to the U.S. I'm not sure why I I am posting this, but I have been to tons of websites to find out about Russia, visas, and airfares, etc. I came across this forum and decided to see if anyone has any words of wisdom for me. I guess the fact she is a Russian national and an alien resident of Italy could pose some problems with her tourist visa. Any comments from the group? Thanks! |
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waytorussia
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| Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Well, if she is completely legal in Italy, then there shouldn't be any problems. The only thing I heard is that it might be hard for Russians go get a tourist visa to USA on a private invitation, but it depends from case to case. If she liked you and you like her, I'm sure you will find a way to see each other...  |
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Sisleve-Ivan
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| Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your quick response. I noticed from other topics that you are very interested and very helpful to the group. I will certainly let everyone know how her visa situation turns out.
Thanks again!! |
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ashton
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It really depends on what passport she has currently. She should probably first check with the US Embassy to see if she can be considered an Italian resident or will still be considered a Russian citizen. If she can be considered an Italian resident, she should have no problems at all and may not even need a visa. I can't say how Italy works with immigration so it largely depends on Italian laws as to which category she will be.
If she must apply for a visa as a Russian citizen, it could be rather difficult for her to get a visa of any type. The first thing that the US Embassy is going to look at is that she is already a foreign resident, whether she is legal or not. Most times when a US Embassy is reviewing a visa application they are looking to see if the person will return to their original country. This could create problems. Perhaps it will be easier to apply in Italy than in Russia, I don't know.
If you want to invite her yourself, I don't know if that is a tourist or private invitation. I have invited friends in the past and don't remember there being a private invitation so to speak. The best way to do this is to simply write a letter to the US Embassy explaining your relationship to the person, how long you have known her and any other details that show you are at least know the person. This is usually all that the person needs. Be as complete as possible to basically vouch for the person's character and intentions. If she has any letter or emails between the two of you she should bring those to the Embassy if she is interviewed. This helps to futher establish that you know the person and that everything is legitimate.
The biggest hurdle that people have is proving that they intend to their country. In the past a few of my friends were denied visas because they could not prove that they had a reason to return such as income, spouse, children or college. The more that she can show, the better. It may be in her favor to be living in Italy or it could be worse.
You can also call your Congressman to request a support letter that they will fax to the US Embassy. Some will do it and some will not but it is worth a try.
I would first determine what the US Embassy considers her status to be.
Good luck. |
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ashton
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:49 am Post subject: |
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Strangely enough, a friend of mine called me after I posted the previous message and her friend from Russia was there visiting her. Her friend lives in Italy so I can give more information. Here is what they told me.
In Italy apparently, they allow foreign citizens to have an Italian passport while they are still citizens of other countries. They told me that it was very much like a green card in the US. Once the person has an Italian passport, they are considered to be an Italian resident, yet a Russian citizen.
If your friend has an Italian passport, she should not need a visa of any kind. She should be able to travel just like an Italian citizen.
Hopefully, your friend has an Italian passport and can avoid the visa altogether.
Have her call the US Embassy just to make sure. |
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Sisleve-Ivan
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Joined: 22 Jun 2004
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Location: San Diego, California
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:40 am Post subject: |
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Hello Ashton!
Thank you for your replies. I probably need to clarify the situation of my friend. She is a Russian citizen and holds a Russian passport. She has been in Italy for about 7 years and has established legal residence there. She has the Italian version of a U.S. green card. She is classified as an "alien resident" of Italy.
I am hoping she will be able to get a tourist visa for her vacation in August. From what I have read at the U.S. State Department websites, she must prove to them in an interview and with documentation, that she intends to return to Russia, or Italy. I guess that is the grey area. She lives and works in Italy, but she has close family ties in Russia. Matter of fact, she is going to Russia soon to visit her mother.
I will do whatever I can to assist her, but it is very much up to her and the U.S. consulate in Milan to obtain a visa.
Again, thank you for your assistance. I will certainly let everyone know how it turns out. |
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Sisleve-Ivan
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Joined: 22 Jun 2004
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Location: San Diego, California
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| Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:21 am Post subject: No Visa Allowed |
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Well, my girlfriend had all the required documents for her visit to the U.S. Consulate in Milan for her tourist visa. After waiting 4 hours, the lady doing the interview told her she could not have the visa. The reasons were:
1. She had not lived in Italy long enough to have ties to Italy (only 7 years).
2. She did not have a good enough job (waitress).
3. She did not have enough money in her bank account.
It did not matter that she has a car, an apartment and a cat. It also did not matter that she had just renewed her work permit for 2 more years in Italy.
Oh, well, I am working on Plan B. I will be going back to Italy, and we will decide if we want to get married over there.  |
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