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Friendly Competition

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Miami WayToRussified Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 340	Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:55 am    Post subject: Friendly Competition Generally speaking, are people from Belorus, Russia, and Ukraine competitive (culturally speaking and otherwise) with one another? Like competition between England, Ireland, and Scotland?
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ambavi Just Starting Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 3	Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:41 am    Post subject: there is with russians and ukranians, belorusians are more passive.
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nenad Frequent Guest Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 26	Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 4:52 am    Post subject: I get the impression that Russians and Ukranians don't like each other very much? It could be because the Eastern Orthodox church is so split up.
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Generation-P WayToRussified Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 316 Location: SHE WENT TO BARCELONA!	Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 1:16 pm    Post subject: The relationships between Belarus, Russia and Ukraine can be compared to relationship of England, Ireland and Scotland, and even certain similarities can be found. One is for sure that England and English language have been ruling and bullying over the other languages spoken on the islands. Till the 1917 it was forbidden to use Ukraine or Belorussian in Russia and those who faught for their right to use their mother tongue were to view this world from the prison. For some reason Ukrainians have been fighting quite boldly for their rights as a nation, when Belorussians have adopted more to the Russian culture. For instance, if you compare the alphabetical systems of three languages, one can quite easily remark the fact that Ukrainians have more of their own in the alphabet than Belorussians, who have been following the example of Russia. An other question is, if Russia is feeding those examples to Belorussia.
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nenad Frequent Guest Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 26	Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 7:18 pm    Post subject: It is definitely a complicated matter. Now, I presume a lot of Russians in Belarussia and Ukrania are feeling left out. What is the general feeling of saying "I am Russian" in states of former USSR? Is it being greeted with contempt or is it being acknowledged/encouraged. For example, the Latvia, Estonia, Armenia, Lithuania have a small Russian population, but they seem, from the outside, rather nationalistic.
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Generation-P WayToRussified Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 316 Location: SHE WENT TO BARCELONA!	Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:55 am    Post subject: nenad wrote: It is definitely a complicated matter. Now, I presume a lot of Russians in Belarussia and Ukrania are feeling left out. What is the general feeling of saying "I am Russian" in states of former USSR? Is it being greeted with contempt or is it being acknowledged/encouraged. For example, the Latvia, Estonia, Armenia, Lithuania have a small Russian population, but they seem, from the outside, rather nationalistic. In Latvia the Russian minority isn't regarded as small! It is about 40% of the hole population in Latvia that speak Russian as their mother tongue, so please, don't say it is a small minority, when it is even causing political problems between Russia and Latvia. Russian speaking people in Latvia can't get a Latvian passport if they don't pass a Latvian language test, and therefore many elderly and even younger people living in Latvia have alien passports. In Estonia the Russian speaking minority is about 30% of the country´s population. They have the same problems with citizenship as does the Russian speaking minority in Latvia. Lithuania and Belarus have also quite notable Polish minority. In Ukraine the Polish-speaking minority is smaller than in Belarus or in Lithuania. (Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania once belonged to mighty Poland.) The Russian speaking minority in Lithuania is about 10% or smaller. In Ukraine the west part of the country is mostly Ukrainian, when the Eastern Ukraine has a huge population of Russian speaking people.
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nenad Frequent Guest Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 26	Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:40 am    Post subject: I did not know about those percentages. That is the impression that I got. Is Belarussia then the most friendly to Russia? What about those -stan countries, how is their population and relationship with Russia.
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Generation-P WayToRussified Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 316 Location: SHE WENT TO BARCELONA!	Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: nenad wrote: I did not know about those percentages. That is the impression that I got. Is Belarussia then the most friendly to Russia? What about those -stan countries, how is their population and relationship with Russia. Well, I suppose that impression of yours is quite understandable as Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are rather small countries, so the number of the Russian speaking people in Estonia - for instance - seems kind of a small if you compare the numbers with U.S. Of course if you go to Estonia - especially to the Eastern Estonia - the number of Russian speaking people doesn't appear to be that small at all - but rather the contrary. I'd say that all former soviet socialist republics, such as the -stan countries, have a considerable number of Russian population. Most of the stan countries aren't christian, but islamic. (As you once earlier mentioned something about the religion in your post.) Belarus and Ukraine -btw- both have a mentionable jewish and Catholic population. (Lithuania is Catholic - allthough you perhaps already knew it.) To be honest I don't know so much about the Asian soviet socialist republics to say too much about them. I suppose some of them aren't that attached to Russia nowadays.
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AntoMax Frequent Guest Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 48 Location: Matrix	Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:32 am    Post subject: Ukraine wants independace because Stalin starved Ukraine and oppressed but in my personal opinion it should be part of Russia (and it would be if not for the international community) Poland at its greatest height was in alliance with Lithuania (I think). In the soccer world cup I think competition is great =)
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Xela VIP Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 781 Location: Shanghai	Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:06 pm    Post subject: I don't know where Generation P gets his figures from but Latvia has only a population of 28% Russians and generally Latvians discriminate against Russians quite badly. The same goes for all Baltic states, and now they are in the EU this will only become worse. Which Russians know, as many will have their own opinions on these states too. Russia's closest(and probably only) friends are Armenia and Belarus; the rest of the FSU generally wish Russia didn't exist, regardless of their Russian populations.
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AntoMax Frequent Guest Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 48 Location: Matrix	Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:42 pm    Post subject: Quote: the rest of the FSU generally wish Russia didn't exist
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Miami WayToRussified Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 340	Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:24 pm    Post subject: What does the name "White Russia" mean anyway? Why did they call Belorus, "Belorus"? Because there is a lot of snow and ice in the winter maybe?
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