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Okanogan Lounge Lizard
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: Happy Independence Day to all |
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Dinesh D'Souza
America is under attack as never before -- not only from terrorists but also from people who provide a justification for terrorism. Islamic fundamentalists declare America the Great Satan. Europeans rail against American capitalism and American culture. South American activists denounce the United States for "neocolonialism" and oppression.
Anti-Americanism from abroad would not be such a problem if Americans were united in standing up for their own country. But in this country itself, there are those who blame America for most of the evils in the world. On the political left, many fault the United States for a history of slavery, and for continuing inequality and racism. Even on the right, traditionally the home of patriotism, we hear influential figures say that America has become so decadent that we are "slouching towards Gomorrah."
If these critics are right, then America should be destroyed. And who can dispute some of their particulars? This country did have a history of slavery and racism continues to exist. There is much in our culture that is vulgar and decadent. But the critics are wrong about America, because they are missing the big picture. In their indignation over the sins of America, they ignore what is unique and good about American civilization.
As an immigrant who has chosen to become an American citizen, I feel especially qualified to say what is special about America. Having grown up in a different society -- in my case, Bombay, India -- I am not only able to identify aspects of America that are invisible to the natives, but I am acutely conscious of the daily blessings that I enjoy in America. Here, then, is my list of the 10 great things about America.
-- America provides an amazingly good life for the ordinary guy. Rich people live well everywhere. But what distinguishes America is that it provides an impressively high standard of living for the "common man." We now live in a country where construction workers regularly pay $4 for a nonfat latte, where maids drive nice cars and where plumbers take their families on vacation to Europe.
Indeed, newcomers to the United States are struck by the amenities enjoyed by "poor" people. This fact was dramatized in the 1980s when CBS television broadcast a documentary, "People Like Us," intended to show the miseries of the poor during an ongoing recession. The Soviet Union also broadcast the documentary, with a view to embarrassing the Reagan administration. But by the testimony of former Soviet leaders, it had the opposite effect. Ordinary people across the Soviet Union saw that the poorest Americans have TV sets, microwave ovens and cars. They arrived at the same perception that I witnessed in an acquaintance of mine from Bombay who has been unsuccessfully trying to move to the United States. I asked him, "Why are you so eager to come to America?" He replied, "I really want to live in a country where the poor people are fat."
-- America offers more opportunity and social mobility than any other country, including the countries of Europe. America is the only country that has created a population of "self-made tycoons." Only in America could Pierre Omidyar, whose parents are Iranian and who grew up in Paris, have started a company like eBay. Only in America could Vinod Khosla, the son of an Indian army officer, become a leading venture capitalist, the shaper of the technology industry, and a billionaire to boot. Admittedly tycoons are not typical, but no country has created a better ladder than America for people to ascend from modest circumstances to success.
-- Work and trade are respectable in America. Historically most cultures have despised the merchant and the laborer, regarding the former as vile and corrupt and the latter as degraded and vulgar. Some cultures, such as that of ancient Greece and medieval Islam, even held that it is better to acquire things through plunder than through trade or contract labor. But the American founders altered this moral hierarchy. They established a society in which the life of the businessman, and of the people who worked for him, would be a noble calling. In the American view, there is nothing vile or degraded about serving your customers either as a CEO or as a waiter. The ordinary life of production and supporting a family is more highly valued in the United States than in any other country. America is the only country in the world where we call the waiter "sir," as if he were a knight.
-- America has achieved greater social equality than any other society. True, there are large inequalities of income and wealth in America. In purely economic terms, Europe is more egalitarian. But Americans are socially more equal than any other people, and this is unaffected by economic disparities. Alexis de Tocqueville noticed this egalitarianism a century and a half ago and it is, if anything, more prevalent today. For all his riches, Bill Gates could not approach the typical American and say, "Here's a $100 bill. I'll give it to you if you kiss my feet." Most likely, the person would tell Gates to go to hell! The American view is that the rich guy may have more money, but he isn't in any fundamental sense better than anyone else.
-- People live longer, fuller lives in America. Although protesters rail against the American version of technological capitalism at trade meetings around the world, in reality the American system has given citizens many more years of life, and the means to live more intensely and actively. In 1900, the life expectancy in America was around 50 years; today, it is more than 75 years. Advances in medicine and agriculture are mainly responsible for the change. This extension of the life span means more years to enjoy life, more free time to devote to a good cause, and more occasions to do things with the grandchildren. In many countries, people who are old seem to have nothing to do: they just wait to die. In America the old are incredibly vigorous, and people in their seventies pursue the pleasures of life, including remarriage and sexual gratification, with a zeal that I find unnerving.
-- In America the destiny of the young is not given to them, but created by them. Not long ago, I asked myself, "What would my life have been like if I had never come to the United States?" If I had remained in India, I would probably have lived my whole life within a five-mile radius of where I was born. I would undoubtedly have married a woman of my identical religious and socioeconomic background. I would almost certainly have become a medical doctor, or an engineer, or a computer programmer. I would have socialized entirely within my ethic community. I would have a whole set of opinions that could be predicted in advance; indeed, they would not be very different from what my father believed, or his father before him. In sum, my destiny would to a large degree have been given to me.
In America, I have seen my life take a radically different course. In college I became interested in literature and politics, and I resolved to make a career as a writer. I married a woman whose ancestry is English, French, Scotch-Irish, German and American Indian. In my twenties I found myself working as a policy analyst in the White House, even though I was not an American citizen. No other country, I am sure, would have permitted a foreigner to work in its inner citadel of government.
In most countries in the world, your fate and your identity are handed to you; in America, you determine them for yourself. America is a country where you get to write the script of your own life. Your life is like a blank sheet of paper, and you are the artist. This notion of being the architect of your own destiny is the incredibly powerful idea that is behind the worldwide appeal of America. Young people especially find irresistible the prospect of authoring the narrative of their own lives.
-- America has gone further than any other society in establishing equality of rights. There is nothing distinctively American about slavery or bigotry. Slavery has existed in virtually every culture, and xenophobia, prejudice and discrimination are worldwide phenomena. Western civilization is the only civilization to mount a principled campaign against slavery; no country expended more treasure and blood to get rid of slavery than the United States. While racism remains a problem, this country has made strenuous efforts to eradicate discrimination, even to the extent of enacting policies that give legal preference in university admissions, jobs, and government contracts to members of minority groups. Such policies remain controversial, but the point is that it is extremely unlikely that a racist society would have permitted such policies in the first place. And surely African Americans like Jesse Jackson are vastly better off living in America than they would be if they were to live in, say, Ethiopia or Somalia.
-- America has found a solution to the problem of religious and ethnic conflict that continues to divide and terrorize much of the world. Visitors to places like New York are amazed to see the way in which Serbs and Croatians, Sikhs and Hindus, Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants, Jews and Palestinians,
all seem to work and live together in harmony. How is this possible when these same groups are spearing each other and burning each other's homes in so many places in the world?
The American answer is twofold. First, separate the spheres of religion and government so that no religion is given official preference but all are free to practice their faith as they wish. Second, do not extend rights to racial or ethnic groups but only to individuals; in this way, all are equal in the eyes of the law, opportunity is open to anyone who can take advantage of it, and everybody who embraces the American way of life can "become American."
Of course there are exceptions to these core principles, even in America. Racial preferences are one such exception, which explains why they are controversial. But in general, America is the only country in the world that extends full membership to outsiders. The typical American could come to India,
live for 40 years, and take Indian citizenship. But he could not "become Indian." He wouldn't see himself that way, nor would most Indians see him that way. In America, by contrast, hundreds of millions have come from far-flung shores and over time they, or at least their children, have in a profound and full sense "become American."
-- America has the kindest, gentlest foreign policy of any great power in world history. Critics of the United States are likely to react to this truth with sputtering outrage. They will point to long-standing American support for a Latin or Middle Eastern despot, or the unjust internment of the Japanese during World War II, or America's reluctance to impose sanctions on South Africa's apartheid regime. However one feels about these particular cases, let us concede to the critics the point that America is not always in the right.
What the critics leave out is the other side of the ledger. Twice in the 20th century, the United States saved the world -- first from the Nazi threat, then from Soviet totalitarianism. What would have been the world's fate if America had not existed? After destroying Germany and Japan in World War II, the United States proceeded to rebuild both countries, and today they are American allies. Now we are doing the same thing in Afghanistan and Iraq. Consider, too, how magnanimous the United States has been to the former Soviet Union after its victory in the Cold War. For the most part America is an abstaining superpower; it shows no real interest in conquering and subjugating the rest of the world. (Imagine how the Soviets would have acted if they had won the Cold War.) On occasion the United States intervenes to overthrow a tyrannical regime or to halt massive human rights abuses in another country, but it never stays to rule that country. In Grenada, Haiti and Bosnia, the United States got in and then it got out. Moreover, when America does get into a war, as in Iraq, its troops are supremely careful to avoid targeting civilians and to minimize collateral damage. Even as America bombed the Taliban infrastructure and hideouts, U.S. planes dropped food to avert hardship and starvation of Afghan civilians. What other country does these things?
-- America, the freest nation on Earth, is also the most virtuous nation on Earth. This point seems counterintuitive, given the amount of conspicuous vulgarity, vice and immorality in America. Some Islamic fundamentalists argue that their regimes are morally superior to the United States because they seek to foster virtue among the citizens. Virtue, these fundamentalists argue, is a higher principle than liberty.
Indeed it is. And let us admit that in a free society, freedom will frequently be used badly. Freedom, by definition, includes the freedom to do good or evil, to act nobly or basely. But if freedom brings out the worst in people, it also brings out the best. The millions of Americans who live decent,
praiseworthy lives desire our highest admiration because they have opted for the good when the good is not the only available option. Even amid the temptations of a rich and free society, they have remained on the straight path. Their virtue has special luster because it is freely chosen.
By contrast, the societies that many Islamic fundamentalists seek would eliminate the possibility of virtue. If the supply of virtue is insufficient in a free society like America, it is almost nonexistent in an unfree society like Iran's. The reason is that coerced virtues are not virtues at all. Consider the woman who is required to wear a veil. There is no modesty in this,
because she is being compelled. Compulsion cannot produce virtue, it can only produce the outward semblance of virtue. Thus a free society like America's is not merely more prosperous, more varied, more peaceful, and more tolerant -- it is also morally superior to the theocratic and authoritarian regimes that America's enemies advocate.
"To make us love our country," Edmund Burke once said, "our country ought to be lovely." Burke's point is that we should love our country not just because it is ours, but also because it is good. America is far from perfect, and there is lots of room for improvement. In spite of its flaws, however, American life as it is lived today is the best life that our world has to offer. Ultimately America is worthy of our love and sacrifice because, more than any other society, it makes possible the good life, and the life that is good.
Dinesh D'Souza's "What's So Great About America" has just been published in paperback by Penguin Books. He is the Rishwain Fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University. E-mail: thedsouzas@aol.com. |
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surfguy Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| great piece and I will share it today with all my friends...thank you and you are a true American |
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tuller Talk Show Host
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject: Thank You |
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Thank You okanogan for your excellent post about our country of America that we love so much and will fight and die for to keep it free and safe from the terrors of the world.
America is a super power not only in military, but the provider of many impoverished countries, especially the children of the world. I think most people in other coutries don't realize, or care to know, that it's the good people of America that pay the taxes from our salaries plus millions of dollars a year out of our pockets into charities for donations to help other people and other countries of the world .
Politics is politics with any country in the world, so I stay away from politiics and do not bash mine or any other countries political scene.
I've been fortunate enough to travel to many different countries, it's always their people that impressed me and left me the impressions I have of their country, not their government.
On all my flights to Russia to visit my now wife and daughters, there were always several young American couples flying to adopt a child, on some return flights it was such a joy to see a new adopted kid flying to it's new home in America. These kids are , as you stated, will one day be who and what they so desire to be because of our country.
When my wife arrived to her new home in America, and after she had been here for awhile, she made a comment to me one day that America and it's people are not what she had been told about most of her life.
She loves America, our daughters love America, I love Russia and the many fine people I've met there. It's my extended family and friends in Russia that have given me the impressions I have of Russia, not their political leaders.
My Russian wife and daughters are now American citizens, but have retained their Russian citizenship also...I would have it no other way.
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Okanogan Lounge Lizard
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:58 am Post subject: |
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I want to take a moment, and point out that these are not my words, as should be noted by the credits to the Indian gentleman. I do not agree with everything he says, I posted it in it's entirety, because the good far outweighs the bad. I do not promote, nor condone wars, I do believe there are times when intervention is required, but I do not agree with the way Iraq is being handled. I don't believe it is right to start editing someone else's opinions, that is censorship. However, I think America is a great country, nonetheless, and pretty much everything in the article is valid. Whatever you draw from it is your perception. Just wanted to clarify that. Happy 4th.
Okanogan
BTW He says over and over that only in America can all these things can happen, but the truth is that just about everything said can be applied to the nation of Canada as well. The two are very very similar in these matters. You couldn't find a better neighbour than Canada. IMHO
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surfguy Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| It was a good read and on target. And this is why I've reacted to so many posts. Only history will judge Iraq or any other political situation. Good or Bad. America is great...it's great because we are the world...our population represents the whole world. |
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Okanogan Lounge Lizard
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| surfguy wrote: | | It was a good read and on target. And this is why I've reacted to so many posts. Only history will judge Iraq or any other political situation. Good or Bad. America is great...it's great because we are the world...our population represents the whole world. |
That's correct, and thanks. I believe I said before that History, and God would tell the tale on Iraq. America is a wonderful place, all things considered. Many people run it down because they are envious of life in the west. Your life is whatever you make it. Some find complaining easier than affecting a change in their own life. |
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| surfguy wrote: | | It was a good read and on target. And this is why I've reacted to so many posts. Only history will judge Iraq or any other political situation. Good or Bad. America is great...it's great because we are the world...our population represents the whole world. |
The same can be said about Canada, for example. And many places in America don't represent the world at all. While it's true that in Queens in New York City or in Los Angeles you can hear people speak hundreds of languages, in states like Alabama or New Hampshire, you will hardly see much diversity. There's nothing bad about it, but those kinds of blanket, general statements that Amerians like to make to emphasize how special and how great America is, gets us the bad rap in Europe and elsewhere abroad. I personally find America a great country for me. But I am sure there will be many people that will find our healthcare system unfair and difficient, our dependency on oil and lack of good public transportation troubling, and our huge budget and account deficits unwise. There are many other bad things about America. From ridiculously easy access to guns in certain states to huge inner cities, to the cities that look more like enormous suburbs where people don't really socialize anymore. People in America aer lonelier than anywhere in Europe because it's a culture of eternal commute. This is great for business because mobile workforce makes it easy for companies to recruit new talent, but arguably bad for society. In other words, it is nice and good to be patriotic and love the country that gave you everything you have. But one has to be fair and realistic. And hearing this unending "America is the best country in the world" from our politicians does not make that much sense. |
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surfguy Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| Spice you are true to a degree in what you say however it's all so very subjective. Public transportation is very good in a lot of our cities and I'd have to say unmatched. San Francisco is very easy to get around, as is San Diego. But surely as you get away from the inner cities there are fewer stops. People being more lonely? Not sure on that one-it's a pretty general statement. I just returned from Arizona and I wouldn't live there but I suppose those who do...like it because of the space. People like different things. Guns being easy to get-yes depending on where and if you are in the know. But I'm sure if I went and asked the girl next door to produce one in 5-10 minutes, probably it wouldn't happen. At least not in my area. Yes we are too dependent on oil. But I will say this from my perspective on what is in the best interest of any nation who has oil...it's better to use up someonelses' before using up your own. Selfish but I think there is some truth to it. Health care is free in the United States...if it's life or death. But we do need to improve the system-the middle class totally loses out in this deal. We have our problems-but there is a lot of good here. |
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MrSpice Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| surfguy wrote: | | Spice you are true to a degree in what you say however it's all so very subjective. Public transportation is very good in a lot of our cities and I'd have to say unmatched. San Francisco is very easy to get around, as is San Diego. But surely as you get away from the inner cities there are fewer stops. People being more lonely? Not sure on that one-it's a pretty general statement. I just returned from Arizona and I wouldn't live there but I suppose those who do...like it because of the space. People like different things. Guns being easy to get-yes depending on where and if you are in the know. But I'm sure if I went and asked the girl next door to produce one in 5-10 minutes, probably it wouldn't happen. At least not in my area. Yes we are too dependent on oil. But I will say this from my perspective on what is in the best interest of any nation who has oil...it's better to use up someonelses' before using up your own. Selfish but I think there is some truth to it. Health care is free in the United States...if it's life or death. But we do need to improve the system-the middle class totally loses out in this deal. We have our problems-but there is a lot of good here. |
Obviously, there's a lot of good here. Just like there's a lot of good in any developed democratic country. The point is, the explamation like "America is the best country that ever existed" - something you here so often from polititians, military leaders, is mispled because what's good to one person, is not good to another. So when you talk about being the best (and better than the rest), you need to compare what we have with the other countries. And here, I think, any reasonable and educated person would have pros and cons. There are many great things about America - from 1st Amendment and excellent and strong legal system to business friendliness, great choice in everything, services, etc. But when you say: San Francisco is easy to get around - you have to compare to the best large cities of the world - i.e., London, Paris, etc. I actually just returned from San Francisco. The city is unique in a way that the city itself is very very expensive and large number of middle class families live outside of the city - just like they do in most cities in the US. This is really a US model - business center (city) and suburbs (where most people actually live). Try to get to or from Silicon Valley where so many people live and work - the only way to do it is by car. Try to get 20 miles from the center of London or Paris - great train and subway service will connect you in a short period of time. The same is true in Germany or Austria. This is just one example. And any public transport that SF has comes partly from the fact that SF is a very compact and liberal city where people want to have public transport. This is hardly the case for San Diego where freeways are filled with cars every day (I was stuck in traffic on those freeways many times when I visited San Diego). Guns are not a problem for you if you live in a nice middle-class area. But most guns that end up in the hands of criminals in New York come from states with very lax gun laws where one can buy a gun with hardly any background check (Alabama, Florida, etc.). So, for someone who's family member has been killed, a Canadian model where guns are only reservered to experienced hunters, may be the best system. If you look at the large and ugly housing projects in New York and Chicago, they are hardly something anyone should be proud about.
I am not talking about unprecedented pork-barrel spending, Iraq war, deficits, etc.
Saying "we are the best" hides many problems. Instead of saying "we are the best in the world but we have some problems" we should say "we are not the best and have many serious problems and should look to the other developed countries and learn from their mistakes and successes" |
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surfguy Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| No I agree with you but taking the Bart train to get to San Jose or Concord in the Bay Area is pretty easy so Silicon Valley is reachable. Criminals will always be able to get guns-if you want them you'll get them. I grew up with a lot of guns in the house. Now I don't really care about them as I was used to many different weapons for many years while in the military and so for me they are no big deal. I live in San Diego and yes the traffic at rush hour is bad here...but there are far worse areas than here. Traffic in St Petersburg is horrendous and so I can only imagine what Moscow is like. I agree being the best is defined by different people and I think anywhere is what you make of it...the states however offer just a wealth of opportunities that other nations cannot. Yes we have huge government spending here and astronomical taxes. And we work all year with just 2 weeks off. It is rediculous. And our government is certainly corrupt giving themselves pay raises at every opportunity. Approving death taxes on money that has already been taxed 3 times. It's not perfect. I look at us as being great-not better but great in the sense that we offer everything. And we are from every where-so really how can europe or anyone else criticize us when we are them? We have so many Russians coming to here. So many of everyone! |
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Can a country using "imperial measures" be seriously regarded as independant  |
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surfguy Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:25 am Post subject: |
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| Vorteks....name one country that the U.S. has taken and and claimed the ground as u.S. territory? We haven't and that is what Imperialism is. |
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| surfguy wrote: | | Vorteks....name one country that the U.S. has taken and and claimed the ground as u.S. territory? We haven't and that is what Imperialism is. |
That went over you surfguy. He means imperial measures as in Cups, quarts, miles. We are all on the metric system, everywhere but the US, that is. |
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surfguy Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| Sure did...just re read it...oops! |
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surfguy Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| the metric system isn't precise...but don't we use the same as what the UK does? |
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