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ram Frequent Guest Joined: 07 Jul 2004 Posts: 38	Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:50 am    Post subject: Re: Well Gul_Dukat wrote: Finally someone who makes sense. Travelling to Russia, going there or living there is an unwise choice. I have never been there, but people that I know who have been there all of them have something bad to say. Yes, my friend. "Russia for Russians". And let me finish the sentence: "Occident for Occidentals". -------------------------------------------------------------- Join the Party! Cleaning Occident from Slavic People! Nice signature. Unfortunately for you, it is the West that will soon be cleaned of the Western Europeans by your beloved muslims. Good luck dreaming and talking big.
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mediashark Moderator Joined: 04 Nov 2004 Posts: 1599	Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:42 pm    Post subject: enough jabbering about your little 'party', it has nothing to do with what is discussed on the forum. further off-topic posts will be deleted.
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salome Just Starting Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 2 Location: New York	Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:26 am    Post subject: While I was there we (meaning myself and my very dark Italian father) met two young boys who confessed to us that they were a punk and skinhead. The punk wearing jeans and a shirt and a skinhead with full, thick locks. Like others said, young men from poor families who take a cause to go with for a year or so. I did so last year with the punk scene, everything I owned had a safety pin in, this year they all went into the trash. Just a scene, a group, and a cause to put effort in. I truly felt like I was never "going to sell-out" and one day "rise over consumerism", until I realized everything about my scene was selling out and buying new mary janes to go with all the other girls in group.
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beachbum Frequent Guest Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 20 Location: USA	Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:48 pm    Post subject: Caucasion with dark hair: I have a trip planned to Novosibirsk at the later part of Spring. I have a friend there, a very close friend of near 2 years. We talk by telephone weekly for over a year and she tells me to avoid Moscow completely by flying in thru Hamburgh Germany because it is unsafe for americans in Moscow. Is this the case? Am i safe to come at all? I love this family and want to visit. I have come to love the Russian people from knowing her. I study Russian language and (Damn the verb section) love it. Quite challenging. The key question is whether or not i would be safe in any part of Russia? Do Russians care what kind of person "I" am, or do they just see George Bush everytime a white boy comes to town? This is a sincere attempt to get informed. Thank you. :?:
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snoof777 Frequent Guest Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 58	Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:53 pm    Post subject: you will be fine just mind your p's n q's. dont walk down dark streets late at night. dont drink vodka on the street. dont drink at the train stations.
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Xela VIP Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 781 Location: Shanghai	Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:34 am    Post subject: beachbum, Quote: This is a sincere attempt to get informed. Start by stop lying.
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CHeburashka Talk Show Host Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 218	Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:18 pm    Post subject: You might as well read all the existing questions on racism, skinheads etc etc. There's nothing new in yours. And then, you might even consider ignoring these other topics: How many Americans, Europeans and other foreign nationals do you think already go to Moscow, as tourists, to live and work there.. Some of them post on this forum: did you read much on the daily assaults on their person in Russia? I don't recall... If you have no need to be in Moscow, you might consider flying over Hamburg, or maybe another European city (don't know all connections) just to avoid potential troubles with switching flights. It might save money as well. Moscow is expensive. That would be a legitimate reason for me to do so... If you want to visit Moscow, please go. Most accidents still happen at home. You will be at a safe distance from yours
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CHeburashka Talk Show Host Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 218	Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:31 pm    Post subject: http://akula-v-rossii.blogspot.com/ offers some more useful information on the skinhead problem in Russia and how to deal with it.
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snoof777 Frequent Guest Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 58	Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:54 am    Post subject: Чебурашка wrote: You might as well read all the existing questions on racism, skinheads etc etc. There's nothing new in yours. And then, you might even consider ignoring these other topics: How many Americans, Europeans and other foreign nationals do you think already go to Moscow, as tourists, to live and work there.. Some of them post on this forum: did you read much on the daily assaults on their person in Russia? I don't recall... oh i do recall - the expat community in moscow alone is a little more than 10,000 and that is americans alone. i would imagine that there are way more brits than americans. so thats a start. plus lets throw a few kiwis in aussies in the mix, that a nice litte number.
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snoof777 Frequent Guest Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 58	Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:14 am    Post subject: and .... i do live in moscow.
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init6 WayToRussified Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Posts: 363 Location: Москва, Россия	Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:26 pm    Post subject: Beachbum, if you really have a friend who told you that, then I'm sorry to say that he/she is an idiot. To start with, fully 99.9% of people who either say nothing but bad about Russia or think it's so incredibly dangerous are people who've never been there. Beyond that, because some people can't handle that no, not every Russian is concerned about them having a good time and may not be "polite," they decide it's a dangerous place and warn everyone off of visiting. Russia is not easy to visit. It requires visas for almost every non-former-Soviet country in the world (if not every). It can be frustrating, daunting and overwhelming. But these are never reasons not to visit if one actually wants to visit.
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CHeburashka Talk Show Host Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 218	Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 7:10 pm    Post subject: snoof777: I referred to the very small amount of posts with first-person experience in being attacked. Thanks for giving the figures. They help. People tend to forget that Moscow metropolitan area has grown to nearly 15 million inhabitants. More than in some of the smaller European countries. Take that into account whenever you hear something on any metropolis. http://www.waytorussia.net/TalkLounge/viewtopic.php?t=4462 by gonethesun already mentions this, in a sensible advice for travellers scared of skinheads, mafia, bears..
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mediashark Moderator Joined: 04 Nov 2004 Posts: 1599	Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 7:30 pm    Post subject: I've started a poll... lets see how many travellers were actually lucky enough to meet a skinhead. We'll do another poll regarding hooligans and street bullies in general.
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brandalpayne11 Talk Show Host Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 245 Location: NC, US	Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:34 pm    Post subject: brandalpayne11 wrote: i have a shaved head, and i find that if i put aftershave on it after i shave it there is no problem aaahhhhh nostalgia
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Pechorin Just Starting Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 7	Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:02 am    Post subject: Yes there are skinheads. They can be menacing as they stand in the middle of parks giving anti-foreigner speeches with loudspeakers. I am Italian and nobody ever messed with me but they stab black and asian children sometimes and people from India, Africa, Asia and the Caucasus feel uncomfortable there. Russians are rude and stare at foreigners because they're not accustomed to seeing many of them. Honestly it's the least pleasant place I've ever been and unless you've got some morbid curiosity spend 3 days in St Petersburg and the rest of your time in Europe.
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