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CarlSpackler
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:22 am    Post subject: Borat Reply with quote

Has anyone in Moscow seen Borat yet? Very Happy Funny but with all the hype and anti Borat press in Russia, this movie has more true satire about the U.S. than Kazakhstan..., just food for a thought...
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mediashark
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard Borat was banned in Russia. Anyway they will get their hands on the movie, thanks to pirate DVDs.

Downloading the movie now as I type...
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Natashadln
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:35 pm    Post subject: borat kino Reply with quote

yes i have saw thus kino on dvd with girlfrend but it waz copi so it was off also on mush we like what me see Embarassed
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Rick
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, banned in Russia. I heard the character was not appreciated much in Kazachstan, but this is new to me too Razz
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kwrty321
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does animosity really exist between Kazaks and Uzbeks to the extent Borat displays in the movie?
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Crabman
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Borat was a character who appeared on segments of "Da Ali G" show on channel 4 in the UK about 6 years ago (some episodes have been bought by and show on HBO in the USA). A few segments:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBirGHHzXOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhPoHWweEqk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d-qsnMPC0g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSFGFvkQ0CA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh3oJ0imuls

I always saw this show as poking fun at the West (esp. US). Many westerners probably haven't a clue about Kazakhstan.
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Kesha
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crabman wrote:
Borat was a character who appeared on segments of "Da Ali G" show on channel 4 in the UK about 6 years ago (some episodes have been bought by and show on HBO in the USA). A few segments:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBirGHHzXOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhPoHWweEqk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d-qsnMPC0g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSFGFvkQ0CA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh3oJ0imuls

I always saw this show as poking fun at the West (esp. US). Many westerners probably haven't a clue about Kazakhstan.



Funny stuff! Laughing
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't seen the movie yet but I have been told from my friends who have (here in the USA) that it's not that great. And really we don't even hear much about it now. All a bunch of hype. But the new Bond movie is supposed to be really good.
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mediashark
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the Borat movie is all about media hype since an obnoxious reporter is the star! Razz I bet after watching the Borat movie a number of Kazakh reporter-wannabes have been pulling stunts on unsuspecting victims and recording the incidents.

RE: Bond. My personal favourite is Pierce Brosnan but the only movie that did him justice was Goldeneye. But actually there can only one real Bond--Sean Connery! As for the rest--bah!

***I think Mr. Bond deserves a thread of his own, seperate from Mr. Borat...
http://waytorussia.net/TalkLounge/viewtopic.php?t=7588
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Triggar
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone I know says that is hilarious - they're going to see it for a second or even third time. Considering the fact that it's currently #3 at the box office, I would hesitate to say it was "all media hype"!
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nigelinleeds
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not seen the film yet, but, the TV series was very funny. It's also a rare thing, comedy with a message. That is, it shows how people so easily accept outrageous racism, one of the clips shows some arrogant upper class idiot from here (England) agreeing that Gypsies should be banned from his sports club. Another I remember in America (somewhere in the south) where Borat started singing "throw a Jew down the well" and everyone joining in and clapping. I do think the Kazakhstan thing is badly thought out, but I guess he had to to have his character come from somewhere.
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the TV series was great, and actually my good friend whom I would always watch Ali G show with says Borat is a riot so I will take his word and go and see it.
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krasatulya
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw Borat with my husband yesterday and we both thought it was kind-of mind-numbing. It was a little different from what I expected, and I didn't think it was as funny as Da Ali G show. There were a few funny parts, but like a previous poster stated, this film's primary aim was to highlight the ignorance and shortcomings of Americans, rather than poke fun of Kazakstan. There were times when I was skirming in my seat at some of the people's responses to his questions; they were really shocking! And just a warning in advance, there is an absolutely grotesque nude scene (almost completely nude). *shudder*
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes we have some Americans who do have a lot of shortcomings....however it's because in the US we have so much security here with our lives that we can be this way. So many people here do not need to concern themselves with what goes on in the rest of the world because they have it all right here. Personally I like the rest of the world so I take an avid interest. I have been to Khazakstan and have seen what it is like. I think Borat would have been more appropriately from say Uzebekistan, or Tajikistan, or Azerbaijan...Too much oil money in Khazakstan...and Almaty definitelywouldn't be home to someone like Borat. Borat girlfrien or wife in real life is the red head from Wedding Crashers...what's she thinking?
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yorbcbud
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nigelinleeds wrote:
I've not seen the film yet, but, the TV series was very funny. It's also a rare thing, comedy with a message. That is, it shows how people so easily accept outrageous racism, one of the clips shows some arrogant upper class idiot from here (England) agreeing that Gypsies should be banned from his sports club. Another I remember in America (somewhere in the south) where Borat started singing "throw a Jew down the well" and everyone joining in and clapping. I do think the Kazakhstan thing is badly thought out, but I guess he had to to have his character come from somewhere.


I don't know about racism being accepted. You could ask Micheal Richards, and he may have a different response. Shocked
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