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RaNdOm-RuSSiAn-ChiK
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| I seriously think russian people can be both...good or bad...i was born there and lived there for 7 years...until i moved to the U.S.A....and the people i knew and my family knew were kind good-hearted people that valued friendship, and always looked out for one another. Of course...there are some Russians probably that can be cold...but maybe thats just their bad side. No one can remain nice and warm every second of their life, of course moods change. Maybe the people that say russians are cold just caught them in a bad mood... |
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AliceFromMoscow
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| RaNdOm RuSSiAn ChiK wrote: | | No one can remain nice and warm every second of their life, of course moods change. |
yeah, i see what you mean.... *looking at your signature* |
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soccergirl-17
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I Have a question for you markhagelin?
What about men who place work first, and
leave all the family responsibilities to the
women? Because you seem to blame women
for the lack of family "moral's" because they
decide to get careers and do something with
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markhagelin
Talk Show Host
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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Location: Maine, USA
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To expect the man to be responsible for EVERYTHING is BS in my book.
It means the women can be lazy while he does everything. There has to a division of responsibilities.
I was married, took care of my wife and step daughter. I worked and still found time for them. We would go places and do things together. Then my wife decided she wanted to work. Fine.
She left all of the financial responsibilites on me so she could blow her money on whatever she wanted. It wasn't teamwork.
A man can get physically tired from work especially if he has a long work day. He has enough responsibilities in the work place. I feel if the woman is not working it is her responsibility for the moral upbringing of any children.
If they both work then they need to reach an agreement.
Would we have as much violence and problems in America's schools today if one parent was home to take care of the children? I don't think so. The atheists got their way no God in school. No teaching of God. No teaching of morals. So if the children aren't learning morals from at least one parent and its not being taught in the schools? Where is it being taught?
Women by their very nature are superior to men when it comes to nurturing their young. In nearly all animal species the male has a passive role when it comes to the raising of young. The bond between mother and child is superior to that of father and child. The maternal bonding has been shown to start in the womb itself.
There are men who are very good fathers. Very loving and very nurturing even if it is not biological in nature.
Some men aren't. Either they weren't taught as a child or they never learned it elsewhere.
Here we have instinct & learned behavior.
I don't know how religious you are but if you read the Bible, woman were created to be man's help mate, not his slave. He has an added responsibility not only for the religious upbringing of his family but to treat them justly.
I have found too many women who can not adjust back to being feminine once they leave the work place. They continue to act masculine. This problem has been documented in a number of books on relationships and the problems caused by it.
If you prefer to look at it in a religious context. Satan tricked Eve into getting Adam to eat the apple and thus disobey God. Would it not make sense then since God has a plan and he chose to put Man in charge, that Satam would try to upset God's plan by changing the role God has for both Man and Woman?
I am not trying to be sexist or to use the Bible to sexist.
Puting someone in charge does not give them license to be abusive. It is a responsibility. One which should be honored accordingly, but it is not. A man should treat a woman with the same respect he treats his mother.
Satan's whole plan is to put iniquity between man and woman. To have them fight and not follow God's plan. The man has more responibility then just work, he should spend time and enjoy his family as well.
The woman is teacher. Did not your own mom teacher how to cook and clean, etc.? I have overseen a friend's children so they could work and I did the housework etc. A house kept in order takes 1-2 hours to clean, do dishes do laundry, etc. I know, I did it. So that leaves 6 hours free. Take an hour maybe 2 to make dinner, 4 free hours. [If necessary, Diapers and feeding might take 2 hours.]
This is not physically demanding work.
American and multinational corporations have been able to deliberately keep wages down so instead of 1 person making $12 an hour they have 2 people making $6. They have in essence forced the women to have to work.
What good is any career? For money? Is that all life is about? When you die, you can't take it with you. Does money truly buy happiness, or does it make misery less miserable?
NOTHING is more important then family. I wish my dad had known that 40 something years ago. He worked second shift and never really spent enough time with us kids.
I can see your point, but the problem is with the individual who thinks just by working he has met his family responsibility. The woman is now and always will be the moral compas of the family. It's a biological thing.
A side note, women who often put careers above family have problems when and if they decide to have families. They don't always have the looks or skills to turn a man's eye or to capture his heart. They have worked too much in a "male world" and they sometimes forget how to be woman.
That is one of the best things about sitting around coffee houses like I have done, I could learn about others and what they could teach me. I heard their complaints and offered a sympathetic shoulder.
Why do older men want younger women? Answer that question and you'll have a key to understanding men. Not all men look for outer beauty and children. They also look for an inner beauty which has not been corrupted. Time and experience has a way of hardening a woman's heart more than that of a man. I have herad many women complain about a man who has children "going through his second childhood" . He has the innate ability to act just as young as before.
I cannot speak for all men. I can just share insights and observations over time. It seems only in recent times 6,000 years + of tradition have been abandoned/ignored. If it isn't boken, don't try to fixit it. And if it is broken just fix the broken part cause if you try to change anything else you could break it.
America probalby more than any other nation is seeing what happens when the family breaks down. The research is there. Breakdown of family roles has led to low/no morality which has led to higher crime.
Ask any member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints [Morman] They have a family home evening and a date night [one fot the family and 1 for the parents without kids]. They do the Boyscouts. They are also 1 of the first agencies there in any emergency, with the Red Cross. They also have very strong family values and one of the lowest divorce rate of any Christian group.
Mark
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DennisF
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Joined: 05 Nov 2004
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Location: Texas
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| Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:44 pm Post subject: Family roles/relationships. |
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| I think Mark makes some valid points in his post. However, in any long term relationship there must be an attitude of teamwork, compromise, fairness, and consideration for the other partner. I agree that in most situations, the man is more "qualified" by virtue of personality to be the primary breadwinner or financail provider. Many women will feel stifled in such an arrangement. Many of those women are good people who deserve to be in a rewarding and stable relationship. I think that the woman should be able to work outside of the home, if that is her desire. In that situation, then the "team" would share in some domestic tasks. I know some "bubbas" who think that the "little woman" should be at home, barefoot, and pregnant. They have a small worldview and probably wouldn't be visiting this site. I also know people who consider a woman to be a companion, a friend, a confidante, very much the same as they are but for a few things. "Vive la differance!" |
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markhagelin
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Location: Maine, USA
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And unless "bubba" is getting welfare, he pays for the "barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen".
I don't think I ignored the teamwork when I stated:
"If they both work then they need to reach an agreement." and
"There has to a division of responsibilities."
Mark |
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