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surfguy
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| jo jo 7 wrote: | What I would like to know is "Why does so many people have to die to finally make a decision to stop?" Its' just like Vietnam all over again....Vietnam II...the senseless war...billions of tax payers money right out the window.... 
Surguys' right, governments don't care about the casualties..terrorist don't care...terrorist think they will go to heaven and be rich when they kill people....what a farce....
one of the TEN COMMANDMENTS: "Thou Shalt Not Kill"!!!!!!!
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Since I was reading Russian History yesterday I found this quite disturbing info
| Quote: | By the end of October 1916, Russia had lost between 1.6 and 1.8 million soldiers, with an additional two million prisoners of war and one million missing for a total of nearly five million men. These were staggering losses. Mutinies began to occur, and in 1916 reports of fraternizing with the enemy started to circulate. Soldiers went hungry and lacked shoes, munitions, and even weapons. Rampant discontent lowered morale, only to be further undermined by a series of military defeats.
Casualty rates were the most vivid sign of this disaster. Already by the end of 1914, only five months into the war, nearly 400,000 Russian men had lost their lives and nearly a million were injured. Far sooner than expected, scarcely trained recruits had to be called to active duty, a process repeated throughout the war as staggering losses continued t mount. The officer class also saw dramatic turnover, especially in the lower ranks, which quickly filled with soldiers rising through the ranks. These men, usually of peasant or worker backgrounds, would play a large role in the politicization of the troops in 1917. The huge losses on the battlefields were not limited to men. The army quickly ran short of rifles and ammunition (as well as uniforms and food). By mid-1915, men were being sent to the front without arms; they could be equipped, it was hoped, with arms recovered from fallen soldiers on the battlefields. With good reason, soldiers felt they were treated not as human beings or even as valuable soldiers but as raw material to be squandered by the rich and powerful. By the spring of 1915, the army was in steady retreat. It was not always orderly. Desertion, chaotic flight, and plunder were not uncommon. By 1916, however, the situation improved in many respects. Russian troops ceased retreating and there were even some modest successes in offensives staged that year, though at great loss of life. Also, the problems of shortages was largely solved by a major effort to increase domestic production. And yet, by the end of 1916, morale among soldiers was even worse than during the great retreat of 1915. The fortunes of war may have improved, but the fact of the war, still draining away the strength and lives of the country and of so many families and individuals, remained an oppressive fact. |
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jo-jo-7
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| MrSpice wrote: | surfguy - You name the dumb shows. But we have lots of very good and smart shows. Take "Daily Show" with John Stewart or news magazines on PBS and CNN ("Frontline", etc.) Some sitcoms were very smart and witty - take "Seinfeld" in the 90s. HBO produces some really good quality shows - from "Sopranos" to "Big Love" about mormons in Utah to "Real Time with Bill Maher"
I watched the 1st 2 seasons of Apprentice and also found it to be interesting. I think it's easy to put down TV because we have over 100 channels here and you can find a lot of junk. To me, the TV is like the US itself - what is good is the opportunity to see what you like - good and bad. |
Good point....I have found myself, while I was on college break watching the show "HOUSE" . Pretty interesting....  |
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surfguy
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| I loved the Sopranos and also the Island |
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jo-jo-7
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| MrSpice wrote: | | surfguy wrote: | | very good point spice and you are absolutely right...but I was saying basically the same thing in a previous post. Good analogy too. |
And to be fair, if we critisize the US, we need to mention some Russian shows that are very popular there and watches by the majority. Most of them are police dramas that are pretty silly. "Law and Order" is 10 times better. Just my personal opinion.
My parents have Russian TV (4 channels). So when I visit them, I see what Russians are now watching - it's not that sohisticated. |
I wish I could get some Russian TV shows, it may be helpful to me...yeah, especially with my favorite actor in it "Valery Nikolaev". yum yum!!!! 
Okay back to reality......  |
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MrSpice
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jo jo: You certainly can get some russian TV shows on eithe DVD, VHS and possible on your cable system. You may have Russian channel as one of the optinons on your cable or satellite system.
http://www.russiandvd.com/store/topdvd.asp |
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jo-jo-7
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| MrSpice wrote: | jo jo: You certainly can get some russian TV shows on eithe DVD, VHS and possible on your cable system. You may have Russian channel as one of the optinons on your cable or satellite system.
http://www.russiandvd.com/store/topdvd.asp |
Thanks Spicey....I have been searching...Now, if I can understand what the movies are about....I changed over to English but, I don't think it is helping...I really need to get on my Russian.... |
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surfguy
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| Jojo...went the movie called "NIGHT WATCH" call me if you get scared! |
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jo-jo-7
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| surfguy wrote: | | Jojo...went the movie called "NIGHT WATCH" call me if you get scared! |
okay, is it really scary?.... |
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surfguy
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| jo jo 7 wrote: | | surfguy wrote: | | Jojo...went the movie called "NIGHT WATCH" call me if you get scared! |
okay, is it really scary?.... |
it's not that scary...you will like it...and besides any excuse for you to call me is a good one |
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mister_wizzz
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"Night watch" is a B-- movie, if you want to see a fantastic/horror movie better choose an American one.
If you are interested in russian acting, I recommend you "the barber of siberia" (100% russian) or "East-West", this one is french but a lot of russian actors play in. |
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camarks
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| jo jo 7 wrote: | I wish I could get some Russian TV shows, it may be helpful to me...yeah, especially with my favorite actor in it "Valery Nikolaev". yum yum!!!!
Okay back to reality...... |
You can watch Russian (and other) TV on the web at http://www.beelinetv.com/ |
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MrSpice
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| great link, camarks |
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Okanogan
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This is a very good site for world news as well. |
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anoki
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I don't know about Russian people, but Russian women are considered very " attainable" all over Europe and US. Maybe it's due to the fact hordes of Russian women marry US men for US citizenship?
Also, Russian girls who come to US to work for the summer sleep around with dozens of complete strangers(seen it with my own eyes!) and their price is very low. But I have to say most are very very good-looking and warm.
On your question, my imprssion is that on the whole, US people hold reat respect for Russian culture, with just a hunt of suspicion. |
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surfguy
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| Quote: | | US people hold reat respect for Russian culture, with just a hunt of suspicion |
yes I think so...Russia is very fascinating...it's people, culture, history, etc. Very colorful, exciting, and intriguing. |
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