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MrSpice
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Boardwalk near the beach in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn, New York City
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krasatulya
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, that's cool. Russia without the inconveniences of Russia  |
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surfguy
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| Cool...thanks for the tip on Brighton Beach and I will make it a point to visit when next in New York. Weather is sunny and warm today in SD...I wish we had more Russian Restraunts here. Just about all cultures have some form of dumpligs...but I have to say...Gyoza is my favorite and my ex makes the best and used to go out of her way to make sure I was satisefied. So good...! But I like Pelmeni too. Thanks Spice for all the info |
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jo-jo-7
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| MrSpice wrote: | | krasatulya wrote: | MrSpice,
When the weather gets warmer, Brighton Beach is one of the places we're heading to! It's only about a 4 hour drive from where we live, but my husband is really jonesing for some authentic Russian cuisine, in addition to the fact that he said it's a neat place and I've never been. |
Brighton Beach is a funky area. I don't think "neat" is a good place to describe it. I think the word "festive" would be a better one. It's kind of exotic. The main shopping area - Brighton Beach avenue - kind of looks like a piece of Russia with russian shops and other businesses. Lots of older people of Russian decent live in the area as well, so you hear Russian speach everywhere. But there are lots of Russian restraurants in other places in Brooklyn. The ones I mentioned are good examples. But by car, it's all close by. |
Spicey...I have been to Brighton Beach...I loved it...never ate there....now, that I have been told what is in Pelmeni it is almost the same dumpling I make without the meat...but I drop mine in chicken broth or bouillon...
Have you ever ate REAL chicken and dumplings?...if you are ever in the south try them...delicious.... 
I can't wait to try Russian food...it sounds so good..and easy to make.... |
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jo-jo-7
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:41 am Post subject: Re: Brute strength needed? |
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| UsualSuspect wrote: | Some answers..
JoJo7,
Maslenitsa is a pre christian "event" that celebrates the farewell to winter and is before the orthodox period of "fasting" before easter.
Pelmeni are little meat dumplings (boiled). Flour, water, salt & 1 egg. The dough is tough to roll once made. We cut circles using a small cup, stuff a pork & veal mince "dollop" into it, fold in half and then my wife folds it correctly as my fingers are too big for delicate work.
Given she's from Siberia dill and carrot shavings are added to the water (salted as well) used to boil them in.
Drop them in (from the freezer) to the boiling water and when they rise to the top (maybe 5 minutes) cut one in half to check the meat colour.
Serve with or without the bouillon. Mayonnaise and smetana optional. We've found Paul Newman Rancho Dressing  is an acceptable subsitute.
You can also dunk them into a blend of bouillon and vinegar concentrate. Round off with a little vodichka singing "On the Farm, every Friday..." and wait for the "fat day" attack in the morning 
Nikir, we usually make 100 or 200 No kids to help...
MrSpice & Mediashark, my wife says everyone else (non Russians) seems to call Olivier Salad "Russian Salad"
I forgot to mention one other taste sensation. Tvorozhniki. Making a pile for this upcoming weekend.
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Yummy!!!!...you guys are making me hungry for some Russian food.... |
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MrSpice
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| jo jo 7 wrote: |
Spicey...I have been to Brighton Beach...I loved it...never ate there....now, that I have been told what is in Pelmeni it is almost the same dumpling I make without the meat...but I drop mine in chicken broth or bouillon...
Have you ever ate REAL chicken and dumplings?...if you are ever in the south try them...delicious....
I can't wait to try Russian food...it sounds so good..and easy to make.... |
What are you talking about. Pelmeni are always made with ground meat - chicken, veal, pork or beef or a combination of any two of those. |
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nikir
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:54 am Post subject: |
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We make them with 3 meats sometimes pork beef and veal and sometimes pork veal and lamb.
Not sure if the lamb is authentic Russian or an Australian adaptation. |
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jo-jo-7
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:01 am Post subject: |
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| MrSpice wrote: | | jo jo 7 wrote: |
Spicey...I have been to Brighton Beach...I loved it...never ate there....now, that I have been told what is in Pelmeni it is almost the same dumpling I make without the meat...but I drop mine in chicken broth or bouillon...
Have you ever ate REAL chicken and dumplings?...if you are ever in the south try them...delicious....
I can't wait to try Russian food...it sounds so good..and easy to make.... |
What are you talking about. Pelmeni are always made with ground meat - chicken, veal, pork or beef or a combination of any two of those. |
Spicey....I know that now...I was just saying my dumplings is without the meat...I drop them in bouillon to soak up the flavor...I was pointing out some similarities.... |
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Kesha
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:13 am Post subject: |
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At this point in the day, I'd take either pelmini or chicken & dumplins!
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jo-jo-7
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| Kesha wrote: | At this point in the day, I'd take either pelmini or chicken & dumplins!
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If your ever in Kentucky, come to my house and I will make you some chicken and dumplings..Okay!!!! |
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anoki
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My favourite is Russian salad(I think you call it Olivier  ):
mayo(never sweetened!) with diced poached carrots, gherkins, potatoes, eggs and apples. You can stuff it in blinchiki(very thin unsweetened pancakes) or simply put it on a slice of bread, either way it's delicious!
I also like Siberian pel'meni, made with chicken. Awesome! 
Russian black breads ar good too, especially homemade. |
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mediashark
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I was totally addicted to one particular brand of mayo (it was manufactured in Nizhny Novogorod, almost never exported out of the city until Ashan hypermarts decided to do it) and anything goes with it was just one step from heaven!  Saves even the most hideous cooking disasters... (not that I had any... lol!)
Personally I think 'herring in a furcoat' is more of a 'Russian Salad' than Oliver salad! But that's what they put on English menus... Oh well |
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MrSpice
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| mediashark wrote: | I was totally addicted to one particular brand of mayo (it was manufactured in Nizhny Novogorod, almost never exported out of the city until Ashan hypermarts decided to do it) and anything goes with it was just one step from heaven! Saves even the most hideous cooking disasters... (not that I had any... lol!)
Personally I think 'herring in a furcoat' is more of a 'Russian Salad' than Oliver salad! But that's what they put on English menus... Oh well |
You will have to use Hellman's or Kraft mayo when you move to Seattle (unless you've done so already). I bet there are some Russian restaurants in Seattle. |
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surfguy
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| you'll have a great selection of what ever you want here. Look to a lot of specialty shops too...and also Seattle has a pretty good Russian community too. |
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mediashark
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| Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| MrSpice wrote: |
You will have to use Hellman's or Kraft mayo when you move to Seattle (unless you've done so already). I bet there are some Russian restaurants in Seattle. |
I currently use those but I really miss my Russian mayo since my last hand-carried supply ran out.... 
Anyway I have other food to stuff myself with.... |
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